Union Gap Village Condominiums

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  • 100 North Slope

    Clinton, NJ 08809

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The latest scam is that this current board (under the suggestion of the current President and I am careful to say NOT ALL of the board members) is planning on meeting to quickly raise the manager and her staffs wages and bonuses behind closed doors before the unknowing "budget committee" of volunteers knows what the budget is in about 2 weeks. In plain English, they are planning to quickly sneak in paying themselves first and screw the residents.
I could not be part of such a breach of trust from the people that elected me or to my own moral code, so after making sure they knew how bad and unethical their plan sounded...I met with very nasty comments and resigned with my ethics intact. I could not fix this problem alone. Only the remainder of the board will know if they put the residents first...or the wicked witch.
Now some members of this same group of people are going to try to convince you the people (and more importantly the budget committee volunteers) that you are being fiscally responsible by increasing the dues. Before you fall pray to that lie, look line by line at the budget first and see where we are spending money on frivolous things... and ask those same board members WHY the Staff salaries were already decided PRIOR TO knowing a sound budget was determined?
And for you Villagers out there, Budget committee and otherwise - before you vote on this budget or in the next election ask ANY and ALL candidates...."Are you going to work/vote lower or at least freeze my dues?" Or "What is your plan to cover the delinquencies?"Ask them why they thought it was right to vote for salaries before what was needed for the Village. Or a more direct way is asking "Are you going to vote for raises before knowing what you are going to charge me? Yes or no?" If they give you and song and dance, or somethings not right and you feel like they are just trying to make it seem like it's only a couple dollars we are talking about. Then remember that it's not just a few dollars. It's a few dollars per month times 438 units. And SOMEONE is making out like a bandit.

You are just like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, you have the power to clean up the board and clear out the witch.

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The latest scam is that this current board (under the suggestion of the current President and I am careful to say NOT ALL of the board members) is planning on meeting to quickly raise the manager and her staffs wages and bonuses behind closed doors before the unknowing "budget committee" of volunteers knows what the budget is in about 2 weeks. In plain English, they are planning to quickly sneak in paying themselves first and screw the residents.
I could not be part of such a breach of trust from the people that elected me or to my own moral code, so after making sure they knew how bad and unethical their plan sounded...I met with very nasty comments and resigned with my ethics intact. I could not fix this problem alone. Only the remainder of the board will know if they put the residents first...or the wicked witch.
Now some members of this same group of people are going to try to convince you the people (and more importantly the budget committee volunteers) that you are being fiscally responsible by increasing the dues. Before you fall pray to that lie, look line by line at the budget first and see where we are spending money on frivolous things... and ask those same board members WHY the Staff salaries were already decided PRIOR TO knowing a sound budget was determined?
And for you Villagers out there, Budget committee and otherwise - before you vote on this budget or in the next election ask ANY and ALL candidates...."Are you going to work/vote lower or at least freeze my dues?" Or "What is your plan to cover the delinquencies?"Ask them why they thought it was right to vote for salaries before what was needed for the Village. Or a more direct way is asking "Are you going to vote for raises before knowing what you are going to charge me? Yes or no?" If they give you and song and dance, or somethings not right and you feel like they are just trying to make it seem like it's only a couple dollars we are talking about. Then remember that it's not just a few dollars. It's a few dollars per month times 438 units. And SOMEONE is making out like a bandit.

You are just like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz, you have the power to clean up the board and clear out the witch.

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My husband and I moved here about 5 years ago. We were informed their might be an assessment of possibly 3-5K for siding along with the fact that the monthly fees being so much higher than other condo units within a 25 mile radius..so we continued to look elsewhere. But we loved the downtown area of Clinton and let's face it...these are some of the least expensive homes to own in Hunterdon County. At UGV we were getting a garage a pool a fireplace & a design plan that would allow my husband (a musician) to play without having to worry about neighbors below us or to one side of us. So we took the plunge!

I went to meetings from the very start of being part of the community. It was not hard to see who the heavy hitters were. Back then 2 board members did not live here and you all know by the previous posts that the Manager does not live here either. I do agree with you that it is always more beneficial to have the manager living on site that that way that person can feel the weight of their input as well as the impact that those decisions make on their neighbors. (Please see nest post)

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My husband and I moved here about 5 years ago. We were informed their might be an assessment of possibly 3-5K for siding along with the fact that the monthly fees being so much higher than other condo units within a 25 mile radius..so we continued to look elsewhere. But we loved the downtown area of Clinton and let's face it...these are some of the least expensive homes to own in Hunterdon County. At UGV we were getting a garage a pool a fireplace & a design plan that would allow my husband (a musician) to play without having to worry about neighbors below us or to one side of us. So we took the plunge!

I went to meetings from the very start of being part of the community. It was not hard to see who the heavy hitters were. Back then 2 board members did not live here and you all know by the previous posts that the Manager does not live here either. I do agree with you that it is always more beneficial to have the manager living on site that that way that person can feel the weight of their input as well as the impact that those decisions make on their neighbors. (Please see nest post)

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After sitting in the audience for 1 year I decided to run for office. I did not want to pay 3-5 thousand dollars for siding in a condo. I was not voted that in that year but the incumbent (who did not live here) was. I was fine with that...but found it odd that people would vote for someone to represent them that didn't live here. Then the siding went through and along came the roughly 10000.00 assessment. I was not happy to pay that kind of money but there was nothing I could do. I was not on the board and the monthly fees to keep up with the cedar was costing about 500000.00 a year. Oh well...I ran again the next year and was pleased to gather the support of the community and try my best to represent my friends and neighbors as well as my husbands and my investment (our first home!).

Over the past 2 years I have sat on the board and seen the situation from all sides. I listened to people and their issues. When you sit on the 'board side' of the table in the room...you have to remember that if you let one thing pass for one person it's only fair that the next person should have that right as well. There are 438 homeowners and if the person owning building 1 is going to have 437 people paying into their problem...I have to take a look at the facts first...the by-laws second...the precedent set previously next...the persons specific situation (urgent or not urgent) and the impact on the community as a whole. Many times it doesn't even have to come down to money being part of the solution. Those are the easier cases to handle. Many times it's just being proactive and helping out where you can.

I wanted to run to make a difference. I wanted to keep the association dues down and home values up (if that's even possible in this crazy real estate market). I ran the social committee with 100% effort the first year with basically a moderate response from the community. This last year due to the previous years response and various reasons I cooled off and basically let whoever wanted to have an event run it themselves and supported them in their efforts. This worked out well... residents Meriam and Vittorio really stepped up and put together 3 well attended events. We should have more people like these in our village and when they do appear SUPPORT THEM!

As for the board...I have always voted for what was best for the community. Remember....I got on this board because I didn't like that siding assessment much either. I have seen and heard things from both sides of the argument but just like the social committee...I would like to see more people step up and actually put their plans into action.

We have a lot of hot issues coming up. If you are strapped for time and don't have time to come to a 7 pm meeting once a month than I recommend coming to the meetings that really matter. The budget meeting and the meetings that have to do with things that will cost you money. If you are really fed up with the board then run for office. It's not a paid position and it's likely you will find people that don't appreciate your opinion...but if you do run...you will ultimately be saying that you are putting your money where your mouth is. I have had the pleasure of meeting with some of you that have had some really good ideas.

The only way to see a change you want is to try.

This months meeting is about the budget approval. I highly recommend coming down and taking a look at where your monthly fees are buying you. If you are reading it and seeing things that don't make sense...ask questions. If you hear an answer you don't like then get on the budget committee. They meet every Fall about once a week (if that) for 3 weeks. I was not allowed to be on the Budget committee this year because only 3 board members are allowed to be involved. I can only vote to approve or not approve the proposed budget not change it. We need more active people that care about making a difference. That's what'll help the budget/fees and enjoyment of living here.

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After sitting in the audience for 1 year I decided to run for office. I did not want to pay 3-5 thousand dollars for siding in a condo. I was not voted that in that year but the incumbent (who did not live here) was. I was fine with that...but found it odd that people would vote for someone to represent them that didn't live here. Then the siding went through and along came the roughly 10000.00 assessment. I was not happy to pay that kind of money but there was nothing I could do. I was not on the board and the monthly fees to keep up with the cedar was costing about 500000.00 a year. Oh well...I ran again the next year and was pleased to gather the support of the community and try my best to represent my friends and neighbors as well as my husbands and my investment (our first home!).

Over the past 2 years I have sat on the board and seen the situation from all sides. I listened to people and their issues. When you sit on the 'board side' of the table in the room...you have to remember that if you let one thing pass for one person it's only fair that the next person should have that right as well. There are 438 homeowners and if the person owning building 1 is going to have 437 people paying into their problem...I have to take a look at the facts first...the by-laws second...the precedent set previously next...the persons specific situation (urgent or not urgent) and the impact on the community as a whole. Many times it doesn't even have to come down to money being part of the solution. Those are the easier cases to handle. Many times it's just being proactive and helping out where you can.

I wanted to run to make a difference. I wanted to keep the association dues down and home values up (if that's even possible in this crazy real estate market). I ran the social committee with 100% effort the first year with basically a moderate response from the community. This last year due to the previous years response and various reasons I cooled off and basically let whoever wanted to have an event run it themselves and supported them in their efforts. This worked out well... residents Meriam and Vittorio really stepped up and put together 3 well attended events. We should have more people like these in our village and when they do appear SUPPORT THEM!

As for the board...I have always voted for what was best for the community. Remember....I got on this board because I didn't like that siding assessment much either. I have seen and heard things from both sides of the argument but just like the social committee...I would like to see more people step up and actually put their plans into action.

We have a lot of hot issues coming up. If you are strapped for time and don't have time to come to a 7 pm meeting once a month than I recommend coming to the meetings that really matter. The budget meeting and the meetings that have to do with things that will cost you money. If you are really fed up with the board then run for office. It's not a paid position and it's likely you will find people that don't appreciate your opinion...but if you do run...you will ultimately be saying that you are putting your money where your mouth is. I have had the pleasure of meeting with some of you that have had some really good ideas.

The only way to see a change you want is to try.

This months meeting is about the budget approval. I highly recommend coming down and taking a look at where your monthly fees are buying you. If you are reading it and seeing things that don't make sense...ask questions. If you hear an answer you don't like then get on the budget committee. They meet every Fall about once a week (if that) for 3 weeks. I was not allowed to be on the Budget committee this year because only 3 board members are allowed to be involved. I can only vote to approve or not approve the proposed budget not change it. We need more active people that care about making a difference. That's what'll help the budget/fees and enjoyment of living here.

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In our experience it's been a peacful place to live. Our neighbors are quiet and friendly, no loud parties or late night noise. The new siding, balconies and garage doors, while expensive, has really updated the facility and improved the heating and cooling of our unit.
I always enjoy the pool every summer, it's always clean, well maintained and it's a nice secure feeling to know there are lifeguards on duty. Plus, it's nice to be able to use a propane grill at the pool, one of the few downsides of being in an upstairs unit.

I know there are some that have a problem with the assesment fee and while it was expensive I think that it overall was worth it. They have really stepped it up with the maintenance recently with the new landscaping projects.

Overall, after almost 5 years here we are pretty happy with our condo buying experience.

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In our experience it's been a peacful place to live. Our neighbors are quiet and friendly, no loud parties or late night noise. The new siding, balconies and garage doors, while expensive, has really updated the facility and improved the heating and cooling of our unit.
I always enjoy the pool every summer, it's always clean, well maintained and it's a nice secure feeling to know there are lifeguards on duty. Plus, it's nice to be able to use a propane grill at the pool, one of the few downsides of being in an upstairs unit.

I know there are some that have a problem with the assesment fee and while it was expensive I think that it overall was worth it. They have really stepped it up with the maintenance recently with the new landscaping projects.

Overall, after almost 5 years here we are pretty happy with our condo buying experience.

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well,well,well ha ha well some people are really waking up. i used ha.ve several condos there, but i sold for alot of the reaons people are stating. with siding your right you have been taken and made fools of. as far as it goes about the board of trustees its your own fault, you have to get your butt out of the seat go to the meetings and raise some hell. you talk about kathy but you are the people letting her get away with what she wants. the develpment from what i have seen visiting my friends is pretty run down. i really don't no what you have maintenance for when all i have heard the siding was to make the develpment more maintenance free. is it true kathy"s grandson on the maintenance staff? oh about the siding wow i can't believe the price $10000 wow that money has to be going something else if not WOW lol going back to looikng run down you see the mess they call the maintenance area not very clean well good luck

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well,well,well ha ha well some people are really waking up. i used ha.ve several condos there, but i sold for alot of the reaons people are stating. with siding your right you have been taken and made fools of. as far as it goes about the board of trustees its your own fault, you have to get your butt out of the seat go to the meetings and raise some hell. you talk about kathy but you are the people letting her get away with what she wants. the develpment from what i have seen visiting my friends is pretty run down. i really don't no what you have maintenance for when all i have heard the siding was to make the develpment more maintenance free. is it true kathy"s grandson on the maintenance staff? oh about the siding wow i can't believe the price $10000 wow that money has to be going something else if not WOW lol going back to looikng run down you see the mess they call the maintenance area not very clean well good luck

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Give me a break Robert C. Dont call yourself a Real Estate Professional when you are selling the units well below what their woorth to make a fast buck. Thanks to you the latest unit is selling for 120,000 at 141 Overlook... Thats 80,000 less then what some people owe. And before you mouth off about others complaining when was the last time you made it to a board meeting or ran for the board (oh wait.. that means you would have to get off your butt). People dont use their names because Kathy will black list them and life becomes hell if you need anything... easy for you hiding behind your landlord.. she wont mess with you.
Joe S has the right Idea and Mr A hit it on the head.
Rossenbum got his $$ from the siding and funny but no longer seemed interested in being on the board.... Then his girl Kathy didnt get a pay raise last year and guess who is back to protect her....and I have yet to find anyone in my section who voted for him to be back on the board .. but he made it...Can we have a recount??? The units have failing water lines - burning down from bad electric - and now a chain of robberies... but stay strong I am sure our dues will reflect that soon....

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Give me a break Robert C. Dont call yourself a Real Estate Professional when you are selling the units well below what their woorth to make a fast buck. Thanks to you the latest unit is selling for 120,000 at 141 Overlook... Thats 80,000 less then what some people owe. And before you mouth off about others complaining when was the last time you made it to a board meeting or ran for the board (oh wait.. that means you would have to get off your butt). People dont use their names because Kathy will black list them and life becomes hell if you need anything... easy for you hiding behind your landlord.. she wont mess with you.
Joe S has the right Idea and Mr A hit it on the head.
Rossenbum got his $$ from the siding and funny but no longer seemed interested in being on the board.... Then his girl Kathy didnt get a pay raise last year and guess who is back to protect her....and I have yet to find anyone in my section who voted for him to be back on the board .. but he made it...Can we have a recount??? The units have failing water lines - burning down from bad electric - and now a chain of robberies... but stay strong I am sure our dues will reflect that soon....

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Everyone in the community says "hey, you want change, go to the meetings." I have gone to many meetings, have voiced my opinion and have been shot down by all board members as well as those in the "audience" who have once served as a board member. My honest question was who thought spending $14,000 on geese removal was a good idea? And that during these economic hardships, why is the manager (who is not even a UGV resident) getting a raise? They told me it wasn't the time nor the place to discuss. I also had two leaks in my roof caused by deteriorating shingles, leaving water marks on my ceiling. I asked them to reimburse me for the damage, they told me because the damage was inside my unit, they had no responsibility.
So I ask, why bother doing anything or trying to change anything when they have the final say in it all?

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Everyone in the community says "hey, you want change, go to the meetings." I have gone to many meetings, have voiced my opinion and have been shot down by all board members as well as those in the "audience" who have once served as a board member. My honest question was who thought spending $14,000 on geese removal was a good idea? And that during these economic hardships, why is the manager (who is not even a UGV resident) getting a raise? They told me it wasn't the time nor the place to discuss. I also had two leaks in my roof caused by deteriorating shingles, leaving water marks on my ceiling. I asked them to reimburse me for the damage, they told me because the damage was inside my unit, they had no responsibility.
So I ask, why bother doing anything or trying to change anything when they have the final say in it all?

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I never knew so many people at U.G.V. share the same last name Anonymous! I guess I too would be challenged to put my identity to some of these ridiculous comments regarding the "Village" and its management. Most are just examples of baseless, unfounded accusation commonly called gossip.
As a local Real Estate practitioner who has sold many condominium units at all community sites throughout the area AND as a resident of 20+ years, I can easily attest that management of U.G.V., guided by the trustees, towers above all others. Yes, management companies may be cheaper but this view is very shortsighted. Try getting them to respond to repair and maintenance issues and your request will be referred to the Board of Trustees. Good luck with that. They have no money whatsoever budgeted to cover even the most minor item in a timely fashion and it shows quite plainly in the condition of its buildings and grounds.
Ours is a community of aging structure and infrastructure which requires a long term vision if it is to succeed. Union Gap Village is now in probably the best condition it has ever been. This has not always the case as any long term resident can tell you. Oh and by the way, property resale values suffered because of it.
It never fails to amaze me, just how many people purchase condos without really understanding exactly what they are buying.The negative comments made here clearly reflect that ignorance. I would challenge all to get the facts before lodging false accusation, making innuendo and spreading rumor. Heck, you could even get involved! No, wait a minute, that would require time a minimum of time and effort. I suppose it is easier to remain selfishly critical at the sidelines.

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I never knew so many people at U.G.V. share the same last name Anonymous! I guess I too would be challenged to put my identity to some of these ridiculous comments regarding the "Village" and its management. Most are just examples of baseless, unfounded accusation commonly called gossip.
As a local Real Estate practitioner who has sold many condominium units at all community sites throughout the area AND as a resident of 20+ years, I can easily attest that management of U.G.V., guided by the trustees, towers above all others. Yes, management companies may be cheaper but this view is very shortsighted. Try getting them to respond to repair and maintenance issues and your request will be referred to the Board of Trustees. Good luck with that. They have no money whatsoever budgeted to cover even the most minor item in a timely fashion and it shows quite plainly in the condition of its buildings and grounds.
Ours is a community of aging structure and infrastructure which requires a long term vision if it is to succeed. Union Gap Village is now in probably the best condition it has ever been. This has not always the case as any long term resident can tell you. Oh and by the way, property resale values suffered because of it.
It never fails to amaze me, just how many people purchase condos without really understanding exactly what they are buying.The negative comments made here clearly reflect that ignorance. I would challenge all to get the facts before lodging false accusation, making innuendo and spreading rumor. Heck, you could even get involved! No, wait a minute, that would require time a minimum of time and effort. I suppose it is easier to remain selfishly critical at the sidelines.

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To all the people who live in Union Gap Village;

If you are not happy, come and live at Oak Knoll Village, and you will find the real hell. I lived in Union Gap Village for two years, enough time to get a feeling about the place. The maintenance fees have been always lower than in my place where I have to pay an extra $400/yr for sewerage - in your place this amount it's included in your maintenance fees. You got a major replacement of a underground pipe, huge job, and still you had lower maintenance fees on that specific year comparing withOak Knoll Village; your fees went up when all the exterior sidings have been replaced. Come to see my ext. walls covered with moss, nobody cares, they look more green than brown?. In Oak Knoll Village maintenance services became more a privilege than a standard job, sometimes only certain people got their place maintained. My monthly payment seems to be a donation to a charity I did not subscribed. There's no fairness and integrity in the way they conduct the business.

I was happy when I lived in U.G.V, and I'll always regret that I didn't buy my just wanted to share my opinion with you.

R. Diaconu

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To all the people who live in Union Gap Village;

If you are not happy, come and live at Oak Knoll Village, and you will find the real hell. I lived in Union Gap Village for two years, enough time to get a feeling about the place. The maintenance fees have been always lower than in my place where I have to pay an extra $400/yr for sewerage - in your place this amount it's included in your maintenance fees. You got a major replacement of a underground pipe, huge job, and still you had lower maintenance fees on that specific year comparing withOak Knoll Village; your fees went up when all the exterior sidings have been replaced. Come to see my ext. walls covered with moss, nobody cares, they look more green than brown?. In Oak Knoll Village maintenance services became more a privilege than a standard job, sometimes only certain people got their place maintained. My monthly payment seems to be a donation to a charity I did not subscribed. There's no fairness and integrity in the way they conduct the business.

I was happy when I lived in U.G.V, and I'll always regret that I didn't buy my just wanted to share my opinion with you.

R. Diaconu

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At first when we moved here we were hit with alot of things that seemed unfair. Now living here for several months we are starting to also see all of the good here. Though we were frustrated before we now see that this really is a nice place to live. I guess it has its good and bad just like any and everything else. Also the people living here are some of the sweetest and friendly people i have ever met. So with this said i am writing this to say that we may have jumped to conclusions a few months ago and regret that.....

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At first when we moved here we were hit with alot of things that seemed unfair. Now living here for several months we are starting to also see all of the good here. Though we were frustrated before we now see that this really is a nice place to live. I guess it has its good and bad just like any and everything else. Also the people living here are some of the sweetest and friendly people i have ever met. So with this said i am writing this to say that we may have jumped to conclusions a few months ago and regret that.....

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I can??t believe that the residents at UGV are so blind. Don??t you know that the president can??t be voted or replaced? He is the permanent president for as long as he lives there. He had that added to the regulations. Nothing will ever get done in UGV. The best thing to do is pack your stuff and get the hell out of there. I do really feel sorry for the residents at UGV, you really need to get together, pay for an auditor and find out what is really going on. To my knowledge, the best start with this would be with Daryl, the maintenance guy. If you get him to talk, things will start rolling.

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I can??t believe that the residents at UGV are so blind. Don??t you know that the president can??t be voted or replaced? He is the permanent president for as long as he lives there. He had that added to the regulations. Nothing will ever get done in UGV. The best thing to do is pack your stuff and get the hell out of there. I do really feel sorry for the residents at UGV, you really need to get together, pay for an auditor and find out what is really going on. To my knowledge, the best start with this would be with Daryl, the maintenance guy. If you get him to talk, things will start rolling.

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Union Gap Sucks. Annoying neighbors. Not enough parking. Too high maintenance fees that keep on going up. Every year they find another bs reason to raise the rates. High Traffic on RT 78. That's why we sold at the right time and left and never looked back.

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Union Gap Sucks. Annoying neighbors. Not enough parking. Too high maintenance fees that keep on going up. Every year they find another bs reason to raise the rates. High Traffic on RT 78. That's why we sold at the right time and left and never looked back.

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As an owner and a person with a contruction management background I can unequivocally say $10000 per unit for siding is robbery. I also took the liberty to measure the siding installed on my home which was 1300 square feet; the four homes adjacent to mine measured 5600 sq feet in total, including soffit. I think it is fair to say the average condo in Union Gap measures 1400 sq. feet of outside wall and soffit space.

Traditional competitive pricing for removal of existing cedar shake, installing soffit and trim, insulating and installing a premium grade vinyl siding panel is $400 per 100 sqare feet. That would put the average home at a cost of $5600 based on 1400 sq. ft. for the siding installation. Considering 400+ units were involved competitive bids should have been in the $350 - $375 per square range. There are many reputable companies that would install for that price considering the volume of work here. This work should have cost no more than $4.00 per square foot -- it was billed at $7.00+. Please reference the siding cost analysis link and keep in mind this was a bid for 400+ units.

http://ginter-siding-and-windows.us/costanaly.htm

The fact that a $10,000 assessment per home was made implies a cost of more than $700 per 100 sq. feet. This clearly is not competitive. The way most sweetheart deals work is based upon the relationships between the property management, the engineering company and the contractor. Management awards supervision of the project to the engineer who in turn brings in their recommended contractors. Sometimes engineering firms actively seek high bids just to get their boys in. When a contractor is getting paid 75% more, the money is then funneled back to the engineering company and the property management. Sometimes cash is exchanged, or sometimes 'favors' are done.

I'm not saying this was done here, but $7.00 per sqare foot is outrageously expensive. Regardless if there was or wasn't any payoffs, this price gives the appearance of impropriety and certainly is an abnormally favorable contractual arrangement. It is naive to think that no one benefitted -Where did this 1.5 million go? Who approved this stuff? Talk to your neighbors. An internal audit needs to be done and the board held accountable. Throw these people out!

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As an owner and a person with a contruction management background I can unequivocally say $10000 per unit for siding is robbery. I also took the liberty to measure the siding installed on my home which was 1300 square feet; the four homes adjacent to mine measured 5600 sq feet in total, including soffit. I think it is fair to say the average condo in Union Gap measures 1400 sq. feet of outside wall and soffit space.

Traditional competitive pricing for removal of existing cedar shake, installing soffit and trim, insulating and installing a premium grade vinyl siding panel is $400 per 100 sqare feet. That would put the average home at a cost of $5600 based on 1400 sq. ft. for the siding installation. Considering 400+ units were involved competitive bids should have been in the $350 - $375 per square range. There are many reputable companies that would install for that price considering the volume of work here. This work should have cost no more than $4.00 per square foot -- it was billed at $7.00+. Please reference the siding cost analysis link and keep in mind this was a bid for 400+ units.

http://ginter-siding-and-windows.us/costanaly.htm

The fact that a $10,000 assessment per home was made implies a cost of more than $700 per 100 sq. feet. This clearly is not competitive. The way most sweetheart deals work is based upon the relationships between the property management, the engineering company and the contractor. Management awards supervision of the project to the engineer who in turn brings in their recommended contractors. Sometimes engineering firms actively seek high bids just to get their boys in. When a contractor is getting paid 75% more, the money is then funneled back to the engineering company and the property management. Sometimes cash is exchanged, or sometimes 'favors' are done.

I'm not saying this was done here, but $7.00 per sqare foot is outrageously expensive. Regardless if there was or wasn't any payoffs, this price gives the appearance of impropriety and certainly is an abnormally favorable contractual arrangement. It is naive to think that no one benefitted -Where did this 1.5 million go? Who approved this stuff? Talk to your neighbors. An internal audit needs to be done and the board held accountable. Throw these people out!

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I have lived at UGV for over seven years. The monthly fee does seem high but many of the last years it has not increased. And that fee pays for water, sewage, and trash which other associations do not. Plus we have a pool. Also the grounds always look nice with many flowers. The snow is cleared moments after it falls. I am happy with UGV. The 10K also seemed high but it pays for more then just siding. I trust the board as they are owners as well. And if I did not trust them then I would run for the board myself as I recommend others who complained to do. If you can honestly say you can reduce the fee, I will vote for you.

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I have lived at UGV for over seven years. The monthly fee does seem high but many of the last years it has not increased. And that fee pays for water, sewage, and trash which other associations do not. Plus we have a pool. Also the grounds always look nice with many flowers. The snow is cleared moments after it falls. I am happy with UGV. The 10K also seemed high but it pays for more then just siding. I trust the board as they are owners as well. And if I did not trust them then I would run for the board myself as I recommend others who complained to do. If you can honestly say you can reduce the fee, I will vote for you.

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The board are ALL moron's. They do crap half fast. They attempted to fix gardens all over the community and they did mine, they didn't finish it...I called them up, they came and looked at it...and said, "Yeah, this is how we finish it." I said it's not finished. Instead of using pavers "all around" the garden, they did a "C".not a "D"why even put pavers if it looks like crap? THEN I went to a meeting and there concern was "$16,000.00 for geese removal" I'm thinking. 16K for geese removal? WHAT the HELL are they doing? Having 100 people run back and forth for 6 hours a day? I'll bark like a dog and do it for half the price.Don't get me started with the 112.00 special assessment fee.

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The board are ALL moron's. They do crap half fast. They attempted to fix gardens all over the community and they did mine, they didn't finish it...I called them up, they came and looked at it...and said, "Yeah, this is how we finish it." I said it's not finished. Instead of using pavers "all around" the garden, they did a "C".not a "D"why even put pavers if it looks like crap? THEN I went to a meeting and there concern was "$16,000.00 for geese removal" I'm thinking. 16K for geese removal? WHAT the HELL are they doing? Having 100 people run back and forth for 6 hours a day? I'll bark like a dog and do it for half the price.Don't get me started with the 112.00 special assessment fee.

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I am looking for a condo for a friend..and I just read this! Are they INSANE? I have a HUGE house here in Hillsborough NJ and it only cost me $9,000 to do my siding..I used Certenteed siding, just about the best. I have a 5 bedroom home and its huge... well.. I guess this is ONE place I'll overlook! Thanks for posting these reports.. and to the one person who is deleriously happy?..I am sure, reading all this stuff..your day will come soon!!

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I am looking for a condo for a friend..and I just read this! Are they INSANE? I have a HUGE house here in Hillsborough NJ and it only cost me $9,000 to do my siding..I used Certenteed siding, just about the best. I have a 5 bedroom home and its huge... well.. I guess this is ONE place I'll overlook! Thanks for posting these reports.. and to the one person who is deleriously happy?..I am sure, reading all this stuff..your day will come soon!!

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I have lived in Union Gap Village for 3 years now. My condo association fee has increased since i first moved in. Also, on top of that there is an assessment fee for new siding costing me 10,000 dollars. I did not want them to go with the contractors, but it may have been a sweetheart deal. I dont feel that our board is run by people that truly care about everyones problems. I feel there is a need for a change in Union Gap Village. I would like to run for president and make that change in the near future. I beleive good things can happen in union gap village, if we elect some new heads on the board. If anyone has info on how to get elected, let me know. Thankyou

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I have lived in Union Gap Village for 3 years now. My condo association fee has increased since i first moved in. Also, on top of that there is an assessment fee for new siding costing me 10,000 dollars. I did not want them to go with the contractors, but it may have been a sweetheart deal. I dont feel that our board is run by people that truly care about everyones problems. I feel there is a need for a change in Union Gap Village. I would like to run for president and make that change in the near future. I beleive good things can happen in union gap village, if we elect some new heads on the board. If anyone has info on how to get elected, let me know. Thankyou

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The Union GaP Board of Trustees are morons !! I had my chimney inspected & it failed because of cracks in it. The company that did the inspection advised me they told the Board THREE years ago that there would be problems. The Board's response ? " Oh, we'll just tell the residents to put plexiglass over the fireplace so it can't be used" What the heck am I paying maintanace fees for ? NOw they expect us to pay an additional $112.00 a month for new siding that we don't need. Add to that the new garages doors. These people must live in a dream world.

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The Union GaP Board of Trustees are morons !! I had my chimney inspected & it failed because of cracks in it. The company that did the inspection advised me they told the Board THREE years ago that there would be problems. The Board's response ? " Oh, we'll just tell the residents to put plexiglass over the fireplace so it can't be used" What the heck am I paying maintanace fees for ? NOw they expect us to pay an additional $112.00 a month for new siding that we don't need. Add to that the new garages doors. These people must live in a dream world.

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The only way you all will stop the mismanagement of Union Gap is to all show up at the monthly meetings every month until somebody listens - get some new officers in there

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December 15

All monthly meetings are held at 7:00 PM in the Clubhouse on North Slope

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The only way you all will stop the mismanagement of Union Gap is to all show up at the monthly meetings every month until somebody listens - get some new officers in there

August 11
September 15
October 13
November 10
December 15

All monthly meetings are held at 7:00 PM in the Clubhouse on North Slope

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I agree that our main problem is the association's president Chuck Rosenblum and the vice president. These guys remind me of Loyd and Harry from the movie Dumb and Dumber. All the board members know is to raise the maintenance fees and waste our money. I don't know how they get voted in every year. Something very fishy is going on here. Is there any one out there that can help us.I like that fact that the board assumes that we have a extra $112.00 a month for the next 10 years on top of the associations dues. Every homeowner I run into feels the same way.

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I agree that our main problem is the association's president Chuck Rosenblum and the vice president. These guys remind me of Loyd and Harry from the movie Dumb and Dumber. All the board members know is to raise the maintenance fees and waste our money. I don't know how they get voted in every year. Something very fishy is going on here. Is there any one out there that can help us.I like that fact that the board assumes that we have a extra $112.00 a month for the next 10 years on top of the associations dues. Every homeowner I run into feels the same way.

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I agree with all of these angry people! If I would have known what I was getting into, I would NEVER have bought a condo in UGV. What started out as a nice place to live, turned out to be a financial nightmare. The association fees keep getting higher and higher every year and than we were hit with this huge building project fee that is costing each of us owners over $10k!!! Holy Cow I cannot afford this! Sad to say I have to sell but cannot even do that right now because the real estate market is unfavorable. I am in a real pickle. Can the association really get away with this? Is there no legal action that can be taken?? If anyone has any advice or solution, please let us know.

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I agree with all of these angry people! If I would have known what I was getting into, I would NEVER have bought a condo in UGV. What started out as a nice place to live, turned out to be a financial nightmare. The association fees keep getting higher and higher every year and than we were hit with this huge building project fee that is costing each of us owners over $10k!!! Holy Cow I cannot afford this! Sad to say I have to sell but cannot even do that right now because the real estate market is unfavorable. I am in a real pickle. Can the association really get away with this? Is there no legal action that can be taken?? If anyone has any advice or solution, please let us know.

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I live in Union Gap and our main problem is association's president Chuck Rosenblum.He needs to go! He has a power trip problem and likes to raise the maintenance fees every year. This time around he charged the home owners $10,000.00. This person has to go! He has no respect for the homeowners budgets.

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I live in Union Gap and our main problem is association's president Chuck Rosenblum.He needs to go! He has a power trip problem and likes to raise the maintenance fees every year. This time around he charged the home owners $10,000.00. This person has to go! He has no respect for the homeowners budgets.

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As a resident of UGV, I'm very upset at what has happened here in our community. I attended the meetings and to me, it's all BS. Then we get the newsletters and they state that not ALL of the units will be getting the same treatment as others...Aren't we all paying the same price, for the same work, but only some are getting the real deal? I feel our hands are tied as owners. There has got to be some way to fight back. Do we have any lawyers at UGV that could help?

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As a resident of UGV, I'm very upset at what has happened here in our community. I attended the meetings and to me, it's all BS. Then we get the newsletters and they state that not ALL of the units will be getting the same treatment as others...Aren't we all paying the same price, for the same work, but only some are getting the real deal? I feel our hands are tied as owners. There has got to be some way to fight back. Do we have any lawyers at UGV that could help?

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I have a question for the readers on this board...When is the Special Assessment take effect? Date of when you will have to start paying more into your monthly fees?

Thank you.

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I have a question for the readers on this board...When is the Special Assessment take effect? Date of when you will have to start paying more into your monthly fees?

Thank you.

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I know Union Gap Village needs some upgrading, but not on the expense of the UGV residents. We all pay an increasingly high maintenance fee, compare to some other condo associations. Now we??ve been assessed to pay an additional 10,274 per unit for repairs. Each unit already pays $276.00 fee and there are 438 units that equals to $120,888 per month. I??m no financial guru, but that seems to be just enough funds to make repairs. If the association didn??t save for this rainy day, due to their incompetence, we shouldn??t have to bear the brunt. Me and my wife have been there for quit some time and now we can??t afford to live there. The residents and myself are at a lost. We don??t know what to do. The market is terrible and trying to sell your condo will be close to impossible. I feel we should look at this closely and get more involved with the decision making of the, So called Board.

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I know Union Gap Village needs some upgrading, but not on the expense of the UGV residents. We all pay an increasingly high maintenance fee, compare to some other condo associations. Now we??ve been assessed to pay an additional 10,274 per unit for repairs. Each unit already pays $276.00 fee and there are 438 units that equals to $120,888 per month. I??m no financial guru, but that seems to be just enough funds to make repairs. If the association didn??t save for this rainy day, due to their incompetence, we shouldn??t have to bear the brunt. Me and my wife have been there for quit some time and now we can??t afford to live there. The residents and myself are at a lost. We don??t know what to do. The market is terrible and trying to sell your condo will be close to impossible. I feel we should look at this closely and get more involved with the decision making of the, So called Board.

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When your maintenance fee is $276.00 a month and the board assess each of the 438 home owners $112.00 a month for a period of ten years for a vinyl siding project totaling $10,274.00 per home owner, there has to be something wrong. The board members should be embarrassed. This siding project is not a necessity. How does the board expect home owners to pay this extra monthly fee of $112.00 a month? The office manger (who is way over paid) does not care because she does not reside in the development but always has time to write about her monthly family vacations in the monthly news letter. I know other home owners and myself can not afford this assessment and if many of us sell we will take a loss. It does not take much to see what is going on here. Does siding really cost 4.5 million dollars? I think we should start a petition and legal action.

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When your maintenance fee is $276.00 a month and the board assess each of the 438 home owners $112.00 a month for a period of ten years for a vinyl siding project totaling $10,274.00 per home owner, there has to be something wrong. The board members should be embarrassed. This siding project is not a necessity. How does the board expect home owners to pay this extra monthly fee of $112.00 a month? The office manger (who is way over paid) does not care because she does not reside in the development but always has time to write about her monthly family vacations in the monthly news letter. I know other home owners and myself can not afford this assessment and if many of us sell we will take a loss. It does not take much to see what is going on here. Does siding really cost 4.5 million dollars? I think we should start a petition and legal action.

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My husband & I have lived at Union Gap Village for almost 13 years. After renting a unit on Hillside Court for two years, we liked it enough to buy a unit on North Slope. So we have been owners nearly eleven years. Most everyone here knows me as "Rudy" and I was the assistant manager here for the last four years. I am an owner here. My husband, Steve, has given his time and energy to serve the community on the Board of Trustees for five years at no pay, no "sweetheart deals".

Anonymous sounds like someone who would be better off in assisted living or trying to maintain his own single-family home elsewhere and see how far he gets on $276 a month. The good people of this Village don't need his ill-informed gossip.

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My husband & I have lived at Union Gap Village for almost 13 years. After renting a unit on Hillside Court for two years, we liked it enough to buy a unit on North Slope. So we have been owners nearly eleven years. Most everyone here knows me as "Rudy" and I was the assistant manager here for the last four years. I am an owner here. My husband, Steve, has given his time and energy to serve the community on the Board of Trustees for five years at no pay, no "sweetheart deals".

Anonymous sounds like someone who would be better off in assisted living or trying to maintain his own single-family home elsewhere and see how far he gets on $276 a month. The good people of this Village don't need his ill-informed gossip.

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The association is an inefficiently run drain on the financial stability of the property. I should know, I've been there over 5 years and have watched my payments increase and now we are scheduled to have an assesment that could be as high as 4k per unit on top of the $270 per month we already pay. They employ a full time manager(she spends the majority of her day doing her personal business) at over 50k per year, assisted part-time by an assistant manager to do the actual work, who happens to be the girlfriend of a board member,at an additional 20k per year. There are full-time service staff, somewhere between 3-6 of them that can do very little of the maintenance that they are supposed to be performing. I had them working on my back porch and I overheard them say, "she's coming up, look busy", in rerence to my wife coming down the backstairs. I'm certain they didn't realize I had been home the entire time. My unaware good-natured wife was bringing them a pizza. An example of the overall incompetence, they build decks, but don't treat the wood. How long do you think wood without treatment lasts? Answer: just under 2 years. The deck is currently unusable, as is my neighbors. Most of the routine maintenance is contracted for some strange reason. Sweatheart deals? You judge, but I'll have to add that it tends to be the SAME company over and over, even after we've established that they're taking us to the cleaners. We have to hire private contractors to do building repairs, which we get raked over the coals by paying them time and materials. If you were a contractor, wouldn't you just LOVE to be able to write your own ticket? The list could go on. I'm certainly not indicating that the Gap is being run in to the ground intentionally, but definitely in an incompetent manner where people involved are certainly riding a gravy train out our expense. Don't be suprised if in the near future you see news coverage of state auditors being summoned to review some of these alleged "sweetheart" deals.

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The association is an inefficiently run drain on the financial stability of the property. I should know, I've been there over 5 years and have watched my payments increase and now we are scheduled to have an assesment that could be as high as 4k per unit on top of the $270 per month we already pay. They employ a full time manager(she spends the majority of her day doing her personal business) at over 50k per year, assisted part-time by an assistant manager to do the actual work, who happens to be the girlfriend of a board member,at an additional 20k per year. There are full-time service staff, somewhere between 3-6 of them that can do very little of the maintenance that they are supposed to be performing. I had them working on my back porch and I overheard them say, "she's coming up, look busy", in rerence to my wife coming down the backstairs. I'm certain they didn't realize I had been home the entire time. My unaware good-natured wife was bringing them a pizza. An example of the overall incompetence, they build decks, but don't treat the wood. How long do you think wood without treatment lasts? Answer: just under 2 years. The deck is currently unusable, as is my neighbors. Most of the routine maintenance is contracted for some strange reason. Sweatheart deals? You judge, but I'll have to add that it tends to be the SAME company over and over, even after we've established that they're taking us to the cleaners. We have to hire private contractors to do building repairs, which we get raked over the coals by paying them time and materials. If you were a contractor, wouldn't you just LOVE to be able to write your own ticket? The list could go on. I'm certainly not indicating that the Gap is being run in to the ground intentionally, but definitely in an incompetent manner where people involved are certainly riding a gravy train out our expense. Don't be suprised if in the near future you see news coverage of state auditors being summoned to review some of these alleged "sweetheart" deals.

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