Blind Pig
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Bars & Pubs, Neighborhood Bars, Singles Bars, Sports Bars, Restaurants, Traditional American Restaurants
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21 & Over, After Work, Outdoor Seating, Bar Menu, Happy Hour, Brunch, Lunch Spot
Bars & Pubs, Neighborhood Bars, Singles Bars, Sports Bars, Restaurants, Traditional American Restaurants
21 & Over, After Work, Outdoor Seating, Bar Menu, Happy Hour, Brunch, Lunch Spot
Established yesteryear, the BLIND PIG is NYC's hottest new watering hole, that hearkens back to the days of Prohibition. A BLIND PIG, roaring 20s slang for a speakeasy, is all you'd hope for from a bar of that classic era: Good drinks, Good food, Good times. ...BUT, SHHHH!!!
Come out feeling like one
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Suzy O.
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| Rank: 414
Fun bar but very tempting to have one too many. Lots of college students. Nice place to hang out with friends. I often recommend it to people looking for a relaxed and friendly bar.
Posted 11/19/08 | Report Abuse
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Awesome place!!!
by partyduck
I don't know what some of the other reviewers are talking about. Maybe they were at another bar! The staff was great, had a fun time. At one point it was crowded and it got very loud in there. I couldn't hear my friends too well but other than that it was awesome!!!
Pros: great bar, great staff
Cons: loud, crowded
Posted 06/28/09
Nice bar, but...
by itneverpaystoberude
I have never been to a bar with so many rules, yes, rules, that must be followed in order to obtain a drink, food, etc. And the waitresses and managers were some of the most unpleasant people I have ever encountered in the service industry. The sign on the wall says it all, "the bartender is always right"...The last time i checked, the customer is always right...
Pros: Lots of tvs, good specials
Cons: Grumpy waitresses, managers, etc.
Posted 03/14/09
Great Brunch Special
by sak941
This bar is located right near my apartment. I have been there for a few drinks at night and also for their Saturday and Sunday brunch special - they offer a great deal with unlimited bloody mary's and mimosas. It is a perfect Saturday afternoon spot!
Posted 12/07/08
Good Ol' Reliable
by Chaser11
Blind Pig is a good old reliable establishment. In the mood for a place to throw a birthday party or pick up some chicks on a saturday night... Blind Pig's your place. Weeknight and you wanna grab a drink and get some grub - Blind Pig is the place to do it - food is great. Wanna get together with your buddies and watch the game - Blind Pig's your place.
Great New York bar that has so much nostalgia, you'd think it was around a lot longer than it actually has been.
Best bar staff in the city.
Pros: bar staff
Posted 09/25/08
i READ A COUPLE OF THESE REVIEWS AND JUST HAD TO SAY MY PART
by muffinman26
i AM AT THIS BAR ALMOST EVERY WEEK. iT IS A MIXED CROWD OF PEOPLE WHICH IS SOMETIMES A GOOD THING, SOMETIMES A BAD. OBVIOUSLY IF i KEEP GOING BACK, i MUST LIKE IT. tHE FOOD IS GREAT, NOT THE QUALITY TO BE EXPECTED FROM A BAR AT LEAST. tHE STAFF IS ALWAYS WORKING, MEANING....DOING THEIR JOB. WHICH IS A PLUS, I ASK FOR SOMETHING AND i GET IT... PERFECT IN MY WORLD. SOME OF THE CUSTOMERS FEEL THEY CAN DO AS THEY PLEASE THOUGH, i HAVE NEVER WITNESSED THIS BEFORE -PRIME EXAMPLE.... 5 GIRLS THROWING BEER ALL OVER EACH OTHER AND THE TABLES NEXT TO THEM AT 8PM....CANT HANDLE YOUR BOOZE? TRY A POSH LOUNGE WITH A PINK LIGHT SETTING. AS FOR MJ, THE MAIN REASON WHY I GO AND WHY MOST GO BACK, I FEEL. MJ IS ONE OF THE BEST BAR KEEPS IN THE BUSINESS. I USED TO SEE HIM WHEN HE WORKED AT ROCKY SULLIVAN'S (RIP), AND THE WHOLE ROOM WOULD BE CRYING WITH LAUGHTER, HES A BALL BREAKER, IF YOU'RE TOO SENSITIVE I AM SURE AFTER YEARS OF COUNSELING THESE SADDENED FEELINGS WILL ONLY DERIVE FROM YOUR CHILDHOOD WHEN YOUR MOTHER CURSED AT YOU ONCE WHEN YOU LIVED IN BUMBLE **UCK OHIIO. BOTTOM LINE, iTS A STAFF FILLED WITH CHARACTERS, FOOD IS GREAT, AND THE BOOZE IS ALWAYS FLOWING BTW IM SRY TO HEAR PPL COULD ONLY SEE THE OLYMPICS ON TWO TV'S.... ROUGH LIFE WE LEAD. GO THERE HAVE SOME LAUGHS AND HAVE A COUPLE OF DRINKS.... MAYBE YOU'LL SEE ME ON MJ'S SIDE OF THE BAR ON A FRIDAY NIGHT LAUGHIN' MY AS* OFF WITH A FULL DRINK IN FRONT OF ME.
Pros: STAFF & FOOD
Cons: CLOSES AT 4AM
Posted 08/22/08
awesome food comfortable atmosphere friendly staff
by jerkstore64
Its awesome to able to go to a bar for Sunday Football and get great wings and a loud rowdy fun crowd and come back next week for a (hungover) saturday afternoon and be able to sit around for hours in a booth and get a satisfying brunch (french toast!) and enough mimosas to make sure you get nothing productive accomplished that day. They have a beer garden in the back that I love for after work drinks. And it's one of the few bars I've been to in the neighborhood where the waitresses and bartenders actually recognize you when you come back.
Pros: Food, service, atmosphere, lots of tv's, food, secluded beer garden
Cons: can't smoke in beer garden, not open 24hrs
Posted 08/15/08
Good times.
by SPBON
The food was really good. Tons of TVs showing just about every sport known to man. Great atmosphere. Overall a great place to head out in the city.
Posted 08/13/08
cheers to the pig
by coley07
My friends and i have been patrons of the pig as we like to call it for several months now.We usaully get there at least once a week. The staff is always very friendly The waitresses remember who we are and always a big hello.The food is great with the specials always changing you never get bored with the menu.The tv's always playing whatever is going on in the world of sports.With all the places in manhattan finally a place with a personallity. So eat drink and be merry. The place were everybody knows your name cheers.
Pros: friendly atmoshere
Cons: none to speak of
Posted 08/13/08
A Great Sports, Food and Drink Haven
by gorsox
I have been to the Blind Pig several times and have been truly impressed. The food is certainly much better than most Pubs around town, with the Mac and Cheese as well as cheesesteak wrap being two of my favorites. The sandwiches are delicious and can also be ordered as wraps. The menu is creative and certainly raises the bar in NYC in regards to restaurants of it's ilk. It is spacious, yet because it does great business, there is always a pleasant buzz. Being a Red Sox fan in a NY can be tough, but not at the Blind Pig. They are always willing to cater to their patrons, which is not always easy with all the sports from which to choose. I have been alone, as well as in big parties and have always been treated with respect, as well as receiving great service. The bartenders are very attentive as well as the waitstaff. I have been to a lot of sports bars in NYC and the Blind Pig is truly a place of destination for me. I eat out a lot, so many menus can become boring in short order, however I always look forward to an evening at the Blind Pig. One more thing, the wines are terrific!!
Pros: Big Screens Galore, Great Food, Grog and Service
Cons: Having to go to my day job after a night there
Posted 08/12/08
Owner/Manager is a Blind Pig
by PandaLuca
Last night I was invited out by some friends to enjoy the Olympics at what was supposed to be a nice bar pub in the Village. At the start of the evening, things moved smoothly, average bar food, nice pints of beer and a friendly waitress. Throughout the night myself, friends and the customers around us were wondering why out of the 7 screens the place uses for sporting showcases, why was the Olympics only being shown on 2 screens? I mean really it is the Olympics, they only happen once every 4 years! Finally we got a 3rd screen going and out of no where someone changes the channel. The 3 tables next to us, all start to hoot and hollar, it is a bar! So yes, boos and loud shouts did come from the customers. Wow! Were we rudly awakened to a monster "bar owner/manager" screaming at us about how he can do whatever the hell he wants (not to mention other ridiculous language, considering we are the customers!)! Seriously, the bling pig was in action! It was a sad showcase for a bar that can become one of the coolest sports hang outs on 14th street. Too bad I will never go back, and the poor waitress that has to deal with that pig of an manager.
Posted 08/12/08
Great Space...Ugly Managerial Attitude
by joiride75
This place has great potential. I like the bar and all the TV's and screens. I have been there twice and both times the bartenders did not seem to care that our group was watching a sporting event and changed the channel. Specifically last night, we were watching the Olympics and the manager/owner changed the channel to some old Yankees game. A couple of tables wanted to have changed back and yes, we booed. He started yelling at us that it was his bar and that basically he can do whatever he wants. Well it's our money that is keeping the place going. Our waitress was attentive and we were sorry she had to work for such an ogre. Food was okay.
Pros: TV's Big Screens
Cons: Not friendly
Posted 08/12/08
Not a good place to hang-out at.
by i8apple
My friends and I usually hang out by the village, but decided to try a new area. Heard about Blind Pig and decided to give it a try. Worst decision ever, I was there recently and the manager was so rude. My friends and I were just having a good time, and the manager decided to be rude to us and kicked us out. The reason being...we were being loud and roudy in a "family style restaurant". Hello? Does he not realize this is a bar and ppl are drinking and trying to have a good time. Maybe this guy ought to be guarding prisoners in a penitentiary and NOT in a BAR.
Pros: Lots of TV
Cons: Rude Manager
Posted 08/10/08
WORST PLACE EVER
by helios910
I was there Friday night with a group of my girlfriends. The manager was rude and the service was only okay.
This place is infamous for being rude to it's customers. Do not go here... DO NOT... there's a million bars in the city and this one is not worth your time, money or tips..
Pros: tv screens
Cons: rude manager
Posted 08/10/08
Terrible customer service
by peanut33
Manager was very rude for some reason when we asked him about the bar. I did not like the service at all, very unfriendly place and service, which I would hope would be better considering how below average the food was. We will not visit or recommend, there are plenty of places in this city worth my patronage. Next.
Pros: its got a bathroom
Cons: everything
Posted 08/10/08
Tried A Couple of TImes, MIserable Both Times
by youhaddabethere2
I had been to blind pig before on a date. It took forever to get a drink and was not crazy with the staff. But I believe in giving everything a fair shake so went there again when friends were in town. I have to say it was even worse than before. The bartender was very rude, took a good 15 minutes to stand there and curse out a patron while there were like a million people waiting to be served. Now mind you I am a bartender myself and know how things work. But the bartender here was on a serious power trip. After waiting politely for half an hour at the bar for a drink i just gave up and left.
Pros: Ok Music and Apparently good food. though did not try any
Cons: Almost everything
Posted 08/02/08
Good staff
by karen5246
We have been here a few times and were in it recently for a friends party. We had a large group of people and the staff did a good job of looking after us! I've only ever tried the nachos but they were good!
Posted 07/16/08
Perfect for couples or groups
by Godzuki24
Have to say that the staff at the BP do an amazing job of keeping customers happy. I hosted a group of 25+ people for a happy hour, and everyone from the bus boys to the managers made my group feel welcome. The menu shows some pretty standard fare, but it tastes better than most pub grub. The bar tenders and waitresses are NYC skilled and give as much as they take. The selection is good, and prices are even better. At the risk of sounding like a schill for the place, I was glad to host and event here and with the warmer weather upon us am glad they have outdoor seating both in front and in back. Glad to have found the BP and looking forward to coming back.
Pros: Location, Service, Professionalism
Posted 06/15/08
Good place to meet before an Irving Plaza show
by Fruhj12
If you're looking for a place to hang before heading over to a show at Irving Plaza, Blind Pig is an excellent choice. Good beer selection, good service, and good pub grub. Then again, it's also a good place to hang after the show.
Posted 05/25/08
GREAT BAR!!
by Toga342
Blind Pig is a great neighborhood bar. They have plenty of tv's to watch a game and they pull in out of town networks so you can catch your team play. They also serve tasty finger foods and the service is excellent. In a nutshell, Blind Pig is the perfect neighborhood bar.
Pros: Atmosphere, Service, Food
Posted 05/13/08
absolutely, the worst bar i have been to in NYC
by monsterous
worst bar in NYC. the only thing that defines it from anywhere else is there incompetent/rude staff. i will never return, and I dont suggest this bar to anyone
Pros: cheap
Cons: atmosphere, service, bar patrons, smell
Posted 05/03/08
Blind Pig!!!!
by Phyl363
I went to meet a couple of friends at Blind Pig one day for Happy Hour. They had some good beers on draft and some tasty finger foods. The bartenders were really friendly as were the many people I met just hanging there. Blind Pig was a cool neighborhood bar. There were also lots of good vantage points for watching the many tvs.
Posted 04/01/08
Nothing special
by enzyme9x9
Was there on thursday night for happy hour w/ coworkers. The place was relatively empty. The service was lackluster and the bartender chicks have serious attitude problems- sighs, snide remarks, and impatience. The bald bartender dude also messed up our order and still charged us half for his own dumb mistake. Not sure if these characters are only there on Thurs but i def/ wont go back.
Pros: lots of flatscreen tvs
Cons: service / attitude
Posted 03/23/08
New favorite bar
by llipsky01
Went here this past Friday night, and was expecting a loud over crowded typical e. village bar, but was pleasantly surprised. Great decor, friendly staff, and seats greeted my friends. Will def come back soon.
Posted 12/15/07
AAAAHHHH YES, The Pig
by jklippel
A great spot all together. They take great Food, great decor, and great employees and MAKE IT HAPPEN. Go hear for some great drinks and watch a game on the flatscreens. The place gets packed on Thursdays and Fridays for happy hour. The main bartender at the pig MJ, is NYC best when it comes to slinging a drink and kicking some a**!! Overall a great bar and a great NYC watering hole! I'm not an owner or investor, so hopefully Tomburg (2 reviews down) will take a pill...
Pros: Food, Drinks, TVS, Music, Employees
Posted 12/06/07
Great Down to Earth Bar
by stuytowncaveman
Went there on a Sunday to catch some of the football games, the place was great, there was a crowd, but its big enough that it wasn't cramped at all. We ordered some of the usual bar food (wings, burgers, tidbits, etc) and all of it was fantastic. Had a great time. Went back for a happy hour and it was also good, very relaxed atmosphere, much better than some of the other Bridge and Tunnel Trash specials in midtown.
Pros: Atmosphere
Cons: Going to get too popular I bet
Posted 09/23/07
Great Happy Hour
by funninnyc
I had found this bar on Citysearch and went for the first time last week. Great crowd, friendly management and staff. If you're a sports fan this is definitely the place to go. Great after work bar as well and the drink specials worked with my wallet. I will be back for more.
Pros: Drink Specials, friendly staff
Cons: food
Posted 08/26/07
Happy Hour couldn't be happier
by rustyl
No usually a review guy or a critic, but I had to give a shout out to this "speakeasy" near union square. This fairly new bar has reached the top when it comes to customer service and good people. I had to plan a surprise going away part for my brother and couldn't decide on where to have it. This place was recommended to me by a friend and I we booked it. Working with the owner was the first inclination that it would be a success, he catered to my every need and then followed through when it was go time. We had family, friends and this bar covered all types of bar goers. The food was EXCELLENT, I would go here just for dinner. The music was awesome. All in all it was a great night and I would recommend it to anyone for a cocktail after work, a family party or a night of debauchery.
Pros: Phenomenol Food
Cons: More bartenders
Posted 08/26/07
Beautiful bar with great food and beer selection
by girlykat
I've been to Blind Pig twice - once for dinner and a second time for just drinks. It is a beautiful space with hardwood floors and exposed brick, and by NYC standards it is HUGE. They have a good number of tables which are available for either dinner or drinks. My boyfriend and I shared a few appetizers for dinner and the food was great. I especially recommend the jalapeno poppers which are some of the best I've had. They have a good beer selection (I am always happy to see Hoegaarden on a menu) and the wine list is extremely reasonably priced. I didn't try any of their signature cocktails, but they look delcious and the prices are a reasonable $8-10 (versus the usual $12+ you'll see for designer cocktails in Manhattan). The bottom line is, this is a great bar for beer and sports (check out the great TV setup) or for a couple of glasses of wine with a girlfriend. Also, single ladies - the place is chock full of dudes, so the numbers are definitely in your favor on the weekend.
Pros: Jalapeno poppers, atmosphere, delcious frosty Hoegaarden
Cons: On our first visit, the waitress was a bit icy
Posted 08/20/07
Awesome place to watch a game
by mcb28
I can't say enough good things about this bar. The Staff is first rate from the Bouncer at the front door to the waitstaff to the bartenders to everyone in the kitchen and the management. It's a great place to unwind after work or to meet up with friends to watch a game, they have tv's on every wall. I have been there a few times and have had a great time everytime. I would recommend this bar to everyone I know except people I don't like because then I would have to see them hanging out in my new favorite bar, and unfortunately for me they would come back again and again.
Pros: Great bartenders wait staff and kitchen staff which makes the food and drink that much better
Cons: Closes at 4:00 AM
Posted 07/22/07
Lovin this new bar!
by forest5590
Very cool new spot. To be honest, I thought the best part about this place is it's surprisingly good food. The burger comes on an English muffin, and the rare waffle fries. Cool/chill vibe with plenty of TVs. Attentive service and bartenders. ...Actually finding myself coming back quite often... a definite must for happy hour.
Pros: Ambience is chill and never too, too crowded.
Posted 06/09/07
Best post college bar!
by juliaeire
Great bar! It is wonderful to find a bar in NYC that does not rip you off with $12 glasses of wine and yet provides an atmosphere of great people. This is an adult equivilent of being in a college bar back when....??? I just love going there and the food is fantastic too! My new favorite place !
Pros: Great location
Cons: None
Posted 05/21/07
Great place to hang with good buds.
by schiliro
For a good time with plenty of classy girls this is the place. The food and service was good but the crowd was even better!
Pros: Good crowd of people
Cons: NA
Posted 05/21/07
A cool and friendly place to meet up with friends
by bobandmo
Beautiful bar and great ceilings.A warm,welcoming Irish pub with hosts who make you feel like your family!
Food was above average with attentive servers. Go and enjoy!
Pros: Good size bar and room to mingle
Posted 05/21/07
my new favorite spot
by marytwohig
I am pretty picky when it comes to bars, but couldn't be happier with The Blind Pig. I've been there for a Thursday night happy hour, a Friday night game, and a Saturday night birthday party and had a great night each time. The bartenders are exceptionally friendly and generous (something that is hard to come by in decent bars in the city). The bar gets a good crowd, but hasn't been overwhelming any time I was there. The decor is gorgeous with large seating areas that can be reserved for groups. The music is fun and they even show the videos on the exposed brick wall late night which is quite entertaining. I would highly recommend it!
Pros: bartenders, good space
Posted 05/20/07
Blind Pig
by mamapeggysaid
WHAT A FIND!! A new local bar/restaurant, Blind Pig (love the name) has a friendly, upbeat staff. Great drinks, food and service. Unfortunately, it can't be my "local" - wish it were closer to home! Would recommend The Pig to friends and family alike. I'll be stopping in the next time I'm in the city.
Pros: Great food, staff & service. Love the giant tv's and friendly atmosphere.
Cons: Not close enough for frequent visits - my loss!
Posted 05/17/07
Best Bar!
by marydrum1
This bar has great ambiance! The bar was crowded, and the music on the jukebox was great! It's a wonderful place to hang out with old friends, and a great place to meet new ones.
Posted 05/14/07
A great new spot on 14th Street.
by pdqberry
I stopped in with my Dad one evening on his recent visit. Very comfortable and inviting decor, and the atmosphere was upbeat and lively, not loud or obnoxious as can often be the case. The Guinness was excellent and the service attentive and welcoming. We had just come from dinner, but entertained the idea of eating more after seeing some orders at the bar. A great spot if you're in the neighborhood.
Posted 05/14/07
GREAT FOR PARTIES!!!
by jcollins323
I recently had my birthday party here, and I have nothing but GREAT things to say about The Blind Pig. The staff was courteous, gave generous/quality food portions, and the unique drink selections will keep me coming back. I recently moved to this area, and I think I found my new local.
Pros: Music, Good looking crowd, menu, staff
Cons: There's not enough bars like this....
Posted 05/14/07
Awsome Neighborhood Newcomer
by kke
On a recent trip back to NYC I was pleasantly surprised to find this great new addition to the neighborhood of my 20's. Fantastic staff, great food and drink, and a very cool look. It was nice to be in a place whith a nice mix of age groups of neighborhood folk, afterwork crews and visitors like me. The Blind Pig will definately be one of my musts everytime I'm in NYC.
Posted 05/14/07
Finally!
by danger70
Finally, a new place that reminds me of why I like to go out for a few drinks among real people. In this native's 35+ years, there have been too many real bars closing down in favor of trendy hotspots that disappear in 18 months after the lowlives get bored with it. The Blind Pig is a real man's bar sprinkled with some down to earth cuties. If you want to catch a game or mingle- the Pig is the place.
Pros: Not a lot of tourist traffic!
Cons: Didn't want to leave at 4AM.
Posted 05/13/07
Best new bar in the city!
by player1
Went in Saturday afternoon and left at 2am. Had a BLAST. The food is awesome, bartenders are great, and the women are beautiful. Highly recommended.
Pros: Atmosphere, bartenders
Cons: Crowded
Posted 05/12/07
packed
by theresax
for having just opened, this place was packed on Thurs, granted it was thurs and yes it was happy hour but wow, you just could not move. I did like the huge TVs everywhere bc you could ignore the ugly guy that's trying to talk to you and watch sports instead.
I did get a chance to sample some of the bar food though: the wings were ok but I didn't care for the mozzarella sticks too much. The waitresses were really nice tho.
Pros: service, huge TVs
Cons: can get really packed
Posted 05/12/07
Great Atmosphere
by 2fromru
Decor is inviting, has a really nice warm golden glow at night. Very nice crowd. A welcome addition to the neighborhood. Not a dive bar and not fast food, but a comfortable, welcoming place to have a drink or a drink with a great meal. Love the nachos! Staff is very friendly.
Posted 05/09/07
excellent service
by domericanyork1
this spot is nice. the atmosphere is great. to tell you the truth, i'd like to copy the place and put in my basement in the house i'll be buying soon!
the only problem i have is that it's not in my neighborhood..............
Pros: everything
Cons: not in my neighborhood
Posted 05/09/07
"ageless" ,upscale ,fun !
by fanofmac
The Pig is a wonderful new restaurant / bar. The decor and atmosphere are welcoming and pleasant. Just like the staff. Food is great. Drinks top notch. Young or old ; local or just visting . A trip to the Blind Pig is bound to make you smile.
Pros: great food, charming hosts
Cons: I wish it were closer to home.
Posted 05/07/07
My new favorite lunch spot.
by osbourbon
Awsome new restaurant on 14th st, has the best lunch menu in the neighborhood. Stopped in for lunch and met Lorraine, the cute little bartender and discovered the best wine by the glass list, and wraps and salads to good to be expected in a bar. The music and atmosphere are perfect and the place is crawling with hot women. I never dreamed a place like this would ever open in our hood. Im back 3 times a week now.
Pros: Hot crowd, hot staff, great food, great music, good service
Cons: A little rowdy on Sunday nights, beer garden not open yet
Posted 05/07/07
diamond in the rough
by redevil
I met up with some friends here last week and was totally surprised. This place is much nicer than your average pub. Really cool decor- perfect mix between old and new. Quick bartenders and great nachos. Will definitely be back.
Pros: crowd, food, service
Cons: no dancing
Posted 05/07/07
Such a perfect addition to the neighborhood!
by nycluver14
I am so glad this place just opened on 14th! It is a just the perfect spot for a drink or two on the way home from work OR a big night out on a weekend with friends. I have taken so many different friends here and all enjoy the great music and fun atmosphere. I was also pleasantly surprised that the kitchen is open till 2 every night in case hunger strikes again late night. The bartenders are very friendly and with no line at the door and waitress service at all the tables it is never hard to get a drink. This is really one of my favorite bars in town now!
Pros: friendly service, great atmosphere, good music and sports
Cons: no dancing
Posted 05/06/07
My new sports bar!
by metsfan33
This is definately the place to go relax have a meal and watch your team win. There is always a good crowd with a nice mix of ladies coming for a drink after work and guys settling in for the game. Whether I am by myself or with a large group the staff is always more than accomodating. It is more of an upscale sportsbar than some hole in the wall and I can bring everyone from co-workers or even a date to this place with a guarantee that they will enjoy the evening. That is, as long as the Mets win!
Pros: TVs, music, crowd
Cons: wish it was closer to my house
Posted 05/06/07