Brown & Brown Automotive Group

My wife called the dealership on Monday and explained this situation to them and that we were overcharged. After a few missed calls and phone messages back and forth between both parties I went down to the dealership myself and talked to the sales manager SS. He told me that the salesman no longer worked there (whether he quit or was fired I dont know) and that he doesnt know what he told us, he said what was written on the contract was a navigation system with blue tooth and thats what we got! I told him that theres no way that a third party navigation system costs $2600. He had a piece of scrap paper in front of him with notes written on it trying to justify the cost of the system (he knew I was coming in to talk to him), telling me that people dont realize what all goes into installing a navigation system, like a Bose Module, an OnStar module, docking station, etc He doesnt really know exactly, thats not his department, youll have to talk to aftermarket sales he said. I asked him If I were a customer coming in and wanting a third party navigation system installed what would it cost? Again he threw his hands up in the air and said thats not my department, youd have to talk to the aftermarket sales department, I have no idea what it costs. But of course I couldnt talk to the aftermarket sales guy because he was gone that day to a Diamond Backs spring training game and that he was gone for the day and that theyre a big sponsor of the Diamond Backs. Realizing that I wasnt going to get anywhere with this guy and that hes a typical underhanded car salesman I left.

The next day the aftermarket sales guy called me (he told me that he was forced to call me) and to try and explain the cost justification of the Pioneer navigation system. I explained the situation to him and that it was ridiculous that we were charged $2600 for a third party Pioneer navigation system and that I could get it on Amazon.com for $700. He said that he understood why I would be upset being charged $2600 for a navigation system that wasnt Original Manufacturer Equipment, however he still attempted to try to justify the cost of the system, telling me that people dont realize how much goes into installing it needing the Bose & OnStar module (which is one module not two) and then having to calibrate it, you cant just plug it in and go. (YES YOU CAN!!!) And in the midst of that conversation when I told him I can get it on Amazon.com for $700 he tried telling me that people dont realize that these systems for a few hundred dollars , 4, 5, 6 hundred dollars are refurbished, that most of them are and that he can get the system even cheaper. (So now he himself really justified that we were overcharged!!!) I told him about the existing radio system not being a Bose radio and understood that it couldnt be the factory navigation system and wanted the difference refunded. He said that he thought all radio systems in those cars were Bose, I told him that it wasnt and that its hard to believe that Bose would install a radio system without having their brand name on it somewhere. I told him that I wanted a part & price breakdown of the pieces for the navigation system. He told me would look up my vehicle by VIN number and that hed be able to tell me if I had a Bose system and all kinds of information pertaining to my vehicle, hed have that information to me the next day. We still have NOT gotten a price/part breakdown of installing a third party navigation system from that dealership!

We have discussed this problem with their public representative with no resolution. In fact, he told me You got a great deal on that car! Look at it like this: You pay more for the navigation system and less for the car. We couldve charged you less for the navigation system and more for the car, it all balances out.

Numerous complaints have been filed with the BBB against this dealership and we now have filed an official complaint with GM and the Better Business Bureau. And now were getting the word out to the Public about this underhanded dealership.

Hopefully youre reading this before you decide to purchase your next new vehicle. I wish I did!!!
If this posting has in any way kept you from dealing with this dealership and youve decided to make your purchase elsewhere, please leave a little paragraph (by clicking on write a review) of approximately how much money you were going to spend and how much money they lost out on because there customer service & satisfaction is non existent. I am the Caveat Emptor for Brown & Brown Chevrolet. I hope this review has been helpful to you the consumer and detrimental to the business of Brown & Brown Chevrolet. They didnt care, why should I?

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Posted 07/26/09 | Report Abuse

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I see the title of Worse Dealership in U.S. History has already been taken. Several other complaints about their Bate & Switch tactics. Do yourself a favor and STAY AWAY from this dealership! This is the type of dealership that has helped give GM a bad name and Im sure on the next round of cuts this dealership will be selected. Theres just too many complaints against this dealership. Do yourself a favor and check the BBB against this place.

We purchased a not so cheap sports car back in March of 2009. The car we purchased was the base model with no upgrades other than an automatic transmission. We almost did not purchase the car since it was not upgraded and we were looking for more of a luxury car. We expressed to our salesman (quit or fired within 2 weeks of the sale, suspect the latter) that we wished the car had a few little extras like radio controls on the steering wheel and a Navigation system with Bluetooth. We dont need all the luxury items, just some would be nice. While looking over the car and deciding if we really wanted a basic model, the salesman indicated that we could add a factory navigation system with Bluetooth on the car if that would help. We asked him to give us the price of what that would cost; he came back with a quote of it costing $2599. The salesman went on to explain that we would have to bring the car back another day to have it installed by their service technicians and that we would be given a loaner car while it was being installed. We understand that $2599 is quite a high price for a navigation system but we also know that dealership prices are always a bit higher for comparable products and services. We also know that to increase and maintain the value for a vehicle of this caliber, only original factory equipment should be installed. So we agreed to purchase the factory navigation system for the price of $2599. Unfortunately however what was written on the Retail Purchase Agreement was MISC EQUIPMENT $2599. AND THIS GAVE THEM THE LICENSE TO STEAL!!!

The salesman gave us a we owe statement with the words Navigation / Bluetooth written on it. We of course thought that was for the factory navigation system as we had discussed with him. We didnt know that any other kind of system could be installed as it was never discussed or presented as an option to us. We understand that theyre not making much money on a car thats been on the lot for a year (so they tell us) and were getting it at a great price, so they can make a little bit of money on this overpriced factory navigation system. This is where they pulled the bait & switch on us and used everything to their advantage BIG TIME!!!

I took the car into the dealership on two weeks later to have the navigation system installed. It took them all day to do it and I received my car back somewhere between 4:00 & 5:00 p.m. after having to call them to find out if it was ready yet. I did notice that it was a Pioneer system and thought to myself that was a little strange and wasnt expecting a name brand like Pioneer. I thought to myself, when did dealerships start installing equipment that wasnt from the manufacturer? Maybe things have changed since I last bought a car, after all I dont normally purchase something from a dealership other than the car itself, its always overpriced and a rip-off. After having the car home for the weekend and discussing this Pioneer navigation system with my wife we realized that we didnt get what we paid for. We did a little research about the 2008 vehicle and the factory navigation systems and found out that the only time a GM factory navigation system is compatible with the 2008 vehicle is if the car came with a Bose radio. This car did not come with a Bose radio, so a third party navigation system would have to be installed. With this fact we thought the dealership knew about this and this is why they installed a Pioneer navigation system. So we thought that they charged us for the GM factory navigation system but the salesman didnt know there was a prerequisite for a GM factory navigation system to be installed, so we should contact them about this mistake and have them refund us the difference between the factory navigation system and the third party Pioneer navigation system. To our surprise we found out that it wasnt an oversight, rather it was a bait & switch scam in which they wrote down as generic as possible on the contract what they owed us for $2599. They knew EXACTLY what they were doing!!!
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Posted 07/26/09 | Report Abuse

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I don't know where to start with this dealership, so I will try to make a long story short. I dropped by when I was told I would get a certain vehicle for a certain amount. Upon arrival, everyone was so helpful until the paperwork was signed. Once the paperwork was signed I had issues with the vehicle. Not only was everyone there unresponsive, they were rude, and would also try to be intimidating (if allowed). I had issues ranging from broke down vehicles, to overcharging for repair work that needed to be done, even though the damage occurred within the amount of time it should have been covered under warranty. Whenever I wanted to lodge a complaint, I would be transferred, transferred again and once again transferred. I would leave messages, just to be called back a week or two later. It got to a point where I literally attempting contacting Henry Brown himself, of course to no avail. I dealt with every manager at that location, and they are all liars, brown and brown are far from customer service, it is about money and money only. there are dealerships that are in a persons' life forever and their are those you wish never existed brown and brown is definitely on my cease to exist list. One year later I call about warranty issues, and of course I have left message after message and have been transferred too many time to keep up. thumbs down - 0 stars - ERNIE AND BERT GIVE BROWN AND BROWN A 0 STAR

Posted 10/03/08 | Report Abuse

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Brown & Brown Chevrolet advertised this truck for $29,966. After getting the ok from my wife which cost me a new washer and dryer ($3,000) and after 3 phone calls to make sure they still had the truck in stock and the price was right I drove across town to wait for what seemed to be an eternity to meet with Phil Jackson (866-459-7602). He introduced himself as the Internet director of sales. I handed him a copy of the ad with the truck and price listed. He called over to make sure the truck was there and then we too the long walk over to where the truck was. I spent about 10 minutes looking at it and said there is no need to haggle I will take the truck and have cash to pay in full. Now he starts to give me a story about how cheap the price is. We get back across the street and he prints off the invoice leaves for a while then comes back in to tell me the truck is actually $10,000 more than it was advertised for. Classic Bait and Switch. So here we go with the sales manager to try to con me into paying another $10,000 and tell me what a good deal it is. When that does not work, they bring out this other guy (Dennis Navarro) (480)313-4884 who says he runs the Auto Nation stores but excuse how he is dressed because he just came off the golf coarse. Again I am told if I want the truck I have to pay another $10,000 and again what a great deal it is. These guys must really think the public is stupid and who knows this scam may work on some people but I will tell you this. I will never buy or go look at another truck from any Auto Nation store.

With about $18 billion in annual revenue, Auto Nation ranked #122 on the 2007 Fortune 500 and is America's "Most Admired Automotive Retailer" five out of the last six years.

Pretty sad that they are admired for how much money they make and not how they take care of their customers. Its no wonder they make 18 billion dollars a year if they rip buyers off for an extra $10,000 on every truck they sell.

If you have a minute to help out a hard workin stiff. Call (Dennis Navarro) (480)313-4884 and ask him why he and auto nation won't honor the price advertised on their own web site and give Ron his truck. By the way, I have never owned a new car or truck in my life. This was to be my first.

I plan to contact the Attorney General, Better Business Bureau, Arizona Motor Vehicle Dealer Licensing and anyone else that will listen. Bait and switch is no fun when you are on this end. I am not going to make it fun on Auto Nations end.

Posted 08/28/08 | Report Abuse

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I called about a truck online before driving to Mesa, I talked to Raul & Luis and they took my credit info, ran my numbers and called me to come get my truck. I came down, gave my down pmt and left w/my truck. After driving it for 2 months they called me to say come down and finalize this deal and when I got there they took back my truck and said they'd return my trade in but they lost my keys and had to tow it to Ford for reprogramming. I was never told why they couldn't finance it, asked for more $ dwn or for a co-signer, I really wasn't even told I couldn't be financed...just we are giving back your trade..all in all this hassle was almost 3 months long. They are rude and unresponsive to issues. I would NEVER recommend this dealership to anyone.

Posted 04/23/07 | Report Abuse

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We helped my daughter when she bought a brand new small S10 pickup from Brown and Brown. They were nice and didn't pressure us too much. She was very happy with the vehicle and it seemed to perform well for the few years she had it. I have been to other car dealerships where I just wanted to leave because of the high pressure salesmen. My husband and I were very pleased with the staff at Brown and Brown. I would recommend them.

PROS: Good Location
CONS: ??

Posted 08/29/06 | Report Abuse

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I went to this car dealer lot because I saw a vehicle I wanted to look at that was in the paper. I called before I went and asked about the vehicle and they said they still had it and had several others in my price range that were for sale so I said I would be there shortly. It took me about 20 minutes to drive there and when I got there it was a joke! The car was on another lot that was locked for the night and we couldn't even see the car. Then of course they tried to talk us into a more expensive car to look at. I told them I didn't have more money to spend and I was not looking to finance a vehcile. Then they had the nerve to tell me that there is not a reliable car for sale in my price range and that I am basically wasting my time! I would not recommend this dealership at all. Once I told them I would not finance and my price range they were very rude to me.

Posted 07/26/05 | Report Abuse

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