McNally Smith College Of Music

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Fostering Educational and Artistic Excellence
  • 19 Exchange St E

    Saint Paul, MN 55101

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  • 651-291-0177

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I am in my 3rd semester at McNally and I do enjoy it a lot for the most part. With any school there is going to be issues and thats to be expected. What I don't like about McNally is mainly the price I think tuition is high not to say its not worth it but it could in fact go down. I never have stayed in the Dorms but have chilled in them with friends and I would not recommend living in them, you would be able to find an apartment closer to campus for less. Also the cafe food is overpriced. Now for the positives, the faculty here are great everyone that works here truly cares about the students. Class sizes are amazing my biggest being 25 and smallest be 8. The student service center is the best thing about the school ( They help with internship coordination, volunteering, and counseling) The people that complain about McNally are the people not doing anything in the industry. Saint Paul is a boring city and most things close after 5 but Minneapolis is a thriving city with so much to do and a great Art and Entertainment community. Music is a tough thing to make a career as and it is over romanticized and to be successful your going to have to want. You're not going to be able to leave with a pice paper saying you have a BA in Music Business or whatever and get a job automatically at a record label that will not happen. In my 3 semester I have been here I have managed a band, done booking for 3, and I intern at a record label. The opportunities are there to be successful they are just disguised as hard work and if your not willing to have sleepless nights to pursue music don't even apply

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I am in my 3rd semester at McNally and I do enjoy it a lot for the most part. With any school there is going to be issues and thats to be expected. What I don't like about McNally is mainly the price I think tuition is high not to say its not worth it but it could in fact go down. I never have stayed in the Dorms but have chilled in them with friends and I would not recommend living in them, you would be able to find an apartment closer to campus for less. Also the cafe food is overpriced. Now for the positives, the faculty here are great everyone that works here truly cares about the students. Class sizes are amazing my biggest being 25 and smallest be 8. The student service center is the best thing about the school ( They help with internship coordination, volunteering, and counseling) The people that complain about McNally are the people not doing anything in the industry. Saint Paul is a boring city and most things close after 5 but Minneapolis is a thriving city with so much to do and a great Art and Entertainment community. Music is a tough thing to make a career as and it is over romanticized and to be successful your going to have to want. You're not going to be able to leave with a pice paper saying you have a BA in Music Business or whatever and get a job automatically at a record label that will not happen. In my 3 semester I have been here I have managed a band, done booking for 3, and I intern at a record label. The opportunities are there to be successful they are just disguised as hard work and if your not willing to have sleepless nights to pursue music don't even apply

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Pros:
1) Great if you have no prior knowledge about the music industry, but would recommend auditioning to Berklee, just to have the option.
2) Ridiculously low student to teacher rate.
3) Most faculty extremely knowledgeable and experienced, with lots of connections.

Cons:
1) 100% of applicants accepted, half-assed students mixed in with serious musicians.
2) Many students stuck in the high school mindset, and are not passionate about fighting for success/expects success to be handed to them by professors.
3) Prior to application, they really sell it to you, but after you pay, not all promises are kept.

Other things to keep in mind:
1) Dorms are filthy and cramped; at least 3 people per room; renovation has been going on for years, with no apparent improvement; night-owls & early-birds housed together.
2) Other housing options limited, and very pricey.
3) No decent supermarkets in or near downtown Saint Paul, so you better have a car.
4) Temperature is below freezing most of the year, and blizzards/weather will not cancel classes, so figure out a way to get to campus!
5) Pricey
6) Unlike most colleges, you better be prepared to hit the ground running, and get involved in as many things as humanly possible, while thinking about the sleep/work/friends relationship, and keeping your heart/passion in check.
7) Credits do not transfer to Berklee, from my experience.

Conclusion: Maybe in a few years, after this place gets bigger, the social/acceptance and on-campus housing situation will improve, and the hot air that they blow will become truths.

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★★☆☆☆

Pros:
1) Great if you have no prior knowledge about the music industry, but would recommend auditioning to Berklee, just to have the option.
2) Ridiculously low student to teacher rate.
3) Most faculty extremely knowledgeable and experienced, with lots of connections.

Cons:
1) 100% of applicants accepted, half-assed students mixed in with serious musicians.
2) Many students stuck in the high school mindset, and are not passionate about fighting for success/expects success to be handed to them by professors.
3) Prior to application, they really sell it to you, but after you pay, not all promises are kept.

Other things to keep in mind:
1) Dorms are filthy and cramped; at least 3 people per room; renovation has been going on for years, with no apparent improvement; night-owls & early-birds housed together.
2) Other housing options limited, and very pricey.
3) No decent supermarkets in or near downtown Saint Paul, so you better have a car.
4) Temperature is below freezing most of the year, and blizzards/weather will not cancel classes, so figure out a way to get to campus!
5) Pricey
6) Unlike most colleges, you better be prepared to hit the ground running, and get involved in as many things as humanly possible, while thinking about the sleep/work/friends relationship, and keeping your heart/passion in check.
7) Credits do not transfer to Berklee, from my experience.

Conclusion: Maybe in a few years, after this place gets bigger, the social/acceptance and on-campus housing situation will improve, and the hot air that they blow will become truths.

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I am graduating from MSCM this Spring and I would honestly recommend it to anyone! 1st) I've met the most amazing people who will be my musical campadres for life and who have done so much for my skill-level. 2nd) I transferred from UM's music department that made me, and almost everyone else there, quasi-suicidal! 3rd) My MSCM teachers are great and you really learn! My film theory prof., a woman from UM, was outstanding. Loved it.

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I am graduating from MSCM this Spring and I would honestly recommend it to anyone! 1st) I've met the most amazing people who will be my musical campadres for life and who have done so much for my skill-level. 2nd) I transferred from UM's music department that made me, and almost everyone else there, quasi-suicidal! 3rd) My MSCM teachers are great and you really learn! My film theory prof., a woman from UM, was outstanding. Loved it.

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Now that I am towards the end of my degree, I greatly regret ever enrolling in this institution. I am not sure how things were before Harry Chalmiers or whatever, but there are too many holes and un-tied ends in way too many places in this school. I am a business student, and have had a horrible experience with the business program. The teachers are pathetic, it's way too overpriced, and the only fun i had was taking guitar lessons. If anyone is curious about this place, don't base your judgement on the visit. They'll pump your ass so full of positive comments and great things to hook you, and then once you start paying them money they don't give a rat's ass about you anymore. The chances of succeeding in this school are about the same as making it as a "rock star" in the music industry. DO.NOT.ATTEND

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Now that I am towards the end of my degree, I greatly regret ever enrolling in this institution. I am not sure how things were before Harry Chalmiers or whatever, but there are too many holes and un-tied ends in way too many places in this school. I am a business student, and have had a horrible experience with the business program. The teachers are pathetic, it's way too overpriced, and the only fun i had was taking guitar lessons. If anyone is curious about this place, don't base your judgement on the visit. They'll pump your ass so full of positive comments and great things to hook you, and then once you start paying them money they don't give a rat's ass about you anymore. The chances of succeeding in this school are about the same as making it as a "rock star" in the music industry. DO.NOT.ATTEND

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The cost for MacNally is way to high. For less than a third you could attend Record-Now.com or other schools that offer one-on-one in studio learning experiences in audio engineering and music production. Why spend more that 15K on an education in music. I have worked with many grads of MacNally who come out of the school completely shocked at what the real world job market is like. If you are looking for a real eduction go to a non-profit based institution.

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The cost for MacNally is way to high. For less than a third you could attend Record-Now.com or other schools that offer one-on-one in studio learning experiences in audio engineering and music production. Why spend more that 15K on an education in music. I have worked with many grads of MacNally who come out of the school completely shocked at what the real world job market is like. If you are looking for a real eduction go to a non-profit based institution.

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With a motto that says "Its Time To Do What You Love" I expected to be going to a college thats fun and unique and interesting. But instead I get that offers hours of lectures and administration that screws up your schedule and puts you into classes weeks late and then tries to scam you out of a lot of money incidentally after I sent in papers for a transfer. I went to mcnally because music is my love and greatest passion but with all my devotion to music mcnally almost ruined it all for me. I wouldn't recommend Mcnally to anyone unless they are rich and can deal with douchebag administration.

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With a motto that says "Its Time To Do What You Love" I expected to be going to a college thats fun and unique and interesting. But instead I get that offers hours of lectures and administration that screws up your schedule and puts you into classes weeks late and then tries to scam you out of a lot of money incidentally after I sent in papers for a transfer. I went to mcnally because music is my love and greatest passion but with all my devotion to music mcnally almost ruined it all for me. I wouldn't recommend Mcnally to anyone unless they are rich and can deal with douchebag administration.

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Stuck in traffic and hating it, I pulled into their driveway and gave the valet my car. I didn't eat that day but will next time.

They had a Winter Cocktail menu that I enjoyed.
And they saved my sanity.

Bonus when I found out the

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Stuck in traffic and hating it, I pulled into their driveway and gave the valet my car. I didn't eat that day but will next time.

They had a Winter Cocktail menu that I enjoyed.
And they saved my sanity.

Bonus when I found out the

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I graduated from McNally Smith in 2005. I moved out to California soon after. I got a job in accounting and went back to school for my BA in Accounting at a California State University - the credits DO transfer! I had half of the 60 transfer over. Obviously the classes that are directly related to Music Business didn't, but the gen eds did.

As for the school, it is a good school, but hard to get a job after, of course. I did not want to live in LA, but did interview for a few jobs up there in the music industry.

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I graduated from McNally Smith in 2005. I moved out to California soon after. I got a job in accounting and went back to school for my BA in Accounting at a California State University - the credits DO transfer! I had half of the 60 transfer over. Obviously the classes that are directly related to Music Business didn't, but the gen eds did.

As for the school, it is a good school, but hard to get a job after, of course. I did not want to live in LA, but did interview for a few jobs up there in the music industry.

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I went there a while back and unfortunately, not so good. We can't even remember what we ordered, but I do know that we were not impressed. We left there feeling disappointed and poor, as it was very over priced. I don't recommend this

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I went there a while back and unfortunately, not so good. We can't even remember what we ordered, but I do know that we were not impressed. We left there feeling disappointed and poor, as it was very over priced. I don't recommend this

Pros: cool decor

Cons: the food and lack of patrons

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I don't know what was going on with McNally Smith several years ago, but it has obviously improved a lot. I am currently attending the school and have no reason to complain about anything. The teachers are all great. They may not be "teachers," but they know their stuff and can help anyone who cares enough to improve. As for finding jobs, it is not the school's responsibility to take students by the hand and find them a job. The music industry is a "make it happen yourself" type of industry. Yet, the school still has the career center which is available to alumni and current students. I haven't been at the school long, but I have already learned much more than I saw as possible. All the students I talk to LOVE this school and can't wait to come back everyday. What you get out of McNally Smith all depends on your work ethic and passion. If you do all your work and are reliable, you will walk out of the school with many opportunities. If you live the typical college lifestyle and put off homework and party, you'll fail in the long run. That's just the way it is. :)

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I don't know what was going on with McNally Smith several years ago, but it has obviously improved a lot. I am currently attending the school and have no reason to complain about anything. The teachers are all great. They may not be "teachers," but they know their stuff and can help anyone who cares enough to improve. As for finding jobs, it is not the school's responsibility to take students by the hand and find them a job. The music industry is a "make it happen yourself" type of industry. Yet, the school still has the career center which is available to alumni and current students. I haven't been at the school long, but I have already learned much more than I saw as possible. All the students I talk to LOVE this school and can't wait to come back everyday. What you get out of McNally Smith all depends on your work ethic and passion. If you do all your work and are reliable, you will walk out of the school with many opportunities. If you live the typical college lifestyle and put off homework and party, you'll fail in the long run. That's just the way it is. :)

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First of all, if you are a musical prodigy, you have had years and years of music instrument or vocal lessons. Mom and Dad has already signed you up for Berklee, Julliard or dozens of other music colleges all over the country, and are now scoping out a talent agent for your next move. You should also be booking paying gigs at or above scale and networking your music and recording demos with your bandmates - (which is the way most of the instructors at McNally Smith have gotten their chops).If you have read David Foster's new book: "Hit Man" about his rise from a hardscrabble Victoria, Canada working class lad to the top Hollywood music producer, you know that making it to the big time involves more sacrifice than convincing Mom, Dad and the student loan system to dump twenty five to thirty grand on such a low potential music education. If you are conned into believing that a music production and engineering degree from McNally - Smith is going to get you in to the Record Plant (Hollywood) or House of Blues, (Nashville) you are in for a rude awakening. I wasn't in the top of my class in music production or engineering, but I know that most of the currently employed music management people in big labels have 4 year or MBA business degrees from the top 300 Universities in the U.S. If you want to play keys, drums, horns or whatever, play guitar much better or sing - you are further ahead if you go to a Community College and get a two year business or Associates degree, and save your money to complete your four-year degree at a major university. If you want to improve your music proficiency, take private lessons and jam, jam, jam with people in music venues like rock, jazz and country bars, churches, choirs and youth symphonies. There are many touring bands looking for your help and talent as well. One thing that I learned: TV and radio stations, as well as advertising agencies go through a ton of non-paid interns, and prefer the four year communications or music majors from the big colleges. I wanted a Pro Tools and AVID certificate from the staff at McNally Smith, and found that the Technical Colleges are more accredited and much cheaper. To be fair, many people have graduated from M/S School of Music, and already possessing the drive and ambition to succeed, are making a living in the music business. The other seventy to eighty percent that did not, still pay their student loans and have gone on to other educations or other careers. Think about the money, as others have noted. You might even double your course load in a Tech or Community college and get a certificate in Mac or P.C. Microsoft or even get a great job in computer networking and use your spare time and cash on your home project studio!

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First of all, if you are a musical prodigy, you have had years and years of music instrument or vocal lessons. Mom and Dad has already signed you up for Berklee, Julliard or dozens of other music colleges all over the country, and are now scoping out a talent agent for your next move. You should also be booking paying gigs at or above scale and networking your music and recording demos with your bandmates - (which is the way most of the instructors at McNally Smith have gotten their chops).If you have read David Foster's new book: "Hit Man" about his rise from a hardscrabble Victoria, Canada working class lad to the top Hollywood music producer, you know that making it to the big time involves more sacrifice than convincing Mom, Dad and the student loan system to dump twenty five to thirty grand on such a low potential music education. If you are conned into believing that a music production and engineering degree from McNally - Smith is going to get you in to the Record Plant (Hollywood) or House of Blues, (Nashville) you are in for a rude awakening. I wasn't in the top of my class in music production or engineering, but I know that most of the currently employed music management people in big labels have 4 year or MBA business degrees from the top 300 Universities in the U.S. If you want to play keys, drums, horns or whatever, play guitar much better or sing - you are further ahead if you go to a Community College and get a two year business or Associates degree, and save your money to complete your four-year degree at a major university. If you want to improve your music proficiency, take private lessons and jam, jam, jam with people in music venues like rock, jazz and country bars, churches, choirs and youth symphonies. There are many touring bands looking for your help and talent as well. One thing that I learned: TV and radio stations, as well as advertising agencies go through a ton of non-paid interns, and prefer the four year communications or music majors from the big colleges. I wanted a Pro Tools and AVID certificate from the staff at McNally Smith, and found that the Technical Colleges are more accredited and much cheaper. To be fair, many people have graduated from M/S School of Music, and already possessing the drive and ambition to succeed, are making a living in the music business. The other seventy to eighty percent that did not, still pay their student loans and have gone on to other educations or other careers. Think about the money, as others have noted. You might even double your course load in a Tech or Community college and get a certificate in Mac or P.C. Microsoft or even get a great job in computer networking and use your spare time and cash on your home project studio!

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First I started when they were switching in 2004 from Musictech to McNally Smith. They said they were nationally accredited. This was a lie! The credits are not worth anything! Let me explain even the on-line schools will not accept them much less any other college/university. As one college registar told me my diploma was not even worth the paper it was written on. Problem though is my diploma was to be mailed after graduation only it never came and despite phone calls I never received it. Then there is the financial aid problem meaning you end up with student loans you never took out just for starters. Forget help finding a job. Upon graduation they totally ignore you and leave you with no help despite all the promises that they will walk you through finding a job.
My advise stay away from this school and just go to an established college/university.

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First I started when they were switching in 2004 from Musictech to McNally Smith. They said they were nationally accredited. This was a lie! The credits are not worth anything! Let me explain even the on-line schools will not accept them much less any other college/university. As one college registar told me my diploma was not even worth the paper it was written on. Problem though is my diploma was to be mailed after graduation only it never came and despite phone calls I never received it. Then there is the financial aid problem meaning you end up with student loans you never took out just for starters. Forget help finding a job. Upon graduation they totally ignore you and leave you with no help despite all the promises that they will walk you through finding a job.
My advise stay away from this school and just go to an established college/university.

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I started attending McNally Smith when it was still Musictech, and it's amazing to me how far I've come as well as the school since I graduated.

I think the best thing they have done was established a career center, every college should have one, and even though it wasn't there while I was in school Debbie and her crew are still willing to help me now.

Great school, great environment, great experience.

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I started attending McNally Smith when it was still Musictech, and it's amazing to me how far I've come as well as the school since I graduated.

I think the best thing they have done was established a career center, every college should have one, and even though it wasn't there while I was in school Debbie and her crew are still willing to help me now.

Great school, great environment, great experience.

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I am a graduating student of Musictech College (now McNally Smith College of Music) and I have been very happy with my time studying music business. The faculty have had extensive experience in the industry and are very willing to give up their free time to help you. The opportunities and connectons within the school are priceless. Check it out!

PROS: Excellent teaching
CONS: Classes won't transfer to many other schools

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★★★★☆

I am a graduating student of Musictech College (now McNally Smith College of Music) and I have been very happy with my time studying music business. The faculty have had extensive experience in the industry and are very willing to give up their free time to help you. The opportunities and connectons within the school are priceless. Check it out!

PROS: Excellent teaching
CONS: Classes won't transfer to many other schools

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Have you ever thought about using music and technology? How about becoming a rockstar? With top industry musicians and washed-up artists, Musictech is the place to be!

PROS: great staff and faculty, top of the line studios and equipment
CONS: money (price)

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Have you ever thought about using music and technology? How about becoming a rockstar? With top industry musicians and washed-up artists, Musictech is the place to be!

PROS: great staff and faculty, top of the line studios and equipment
CONS: money (price)

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The new name wasn't listed on the site, so I will review under the old name, Musictech. I am enrolled in the Recording Engineering program and I am enjoying it immensely. The faculty is very knowledgeable and excellent teachers, and the studios are of good quality(from what I hear from other students, of much higher caliber than it's competitors in the region, though I haven't had a chance to check for myself). I am in an associates degree program, and sometimes wish it were a Bachelors degree. The only real gripe I have is that I am having some schedule issues with this new semester that is just begining.

PROS: Excellent faculty, great facilities.
CONS: Price, no current option for Bachelor degree, scheduling.

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The new name wasn't listed on the site, so I will review under the old name, Musictech. I am enrolled in the Recording Engineering program and I am enjoying it immensely. The faculty is very knowledgeable and excellent teachers, and the studios are of good quality(from what I hear from other students, of much higher caliber than it's competitors in the region, though I haven't had a chance to check for myself). I am in an associates degree program, and sometimes wish it were a Bachelors degree. The only real gripe I have is that I am having some schedule issues with this new semester that is just begining.

PROS: Excellent faculty, great facilities.
CONS: Price, no current option for Bachelor degree, scheduling.

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