Alice Laurens ARNP LLC - CLOSED

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  • 1400 112th Avenue South East Suite 205

    Bellevue, WA 98004

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  • 425-956-3330

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I was referred to Laurens by a counselor who, it turned out, was not personally experienced with Laurens. The objective was to reassess current medications for depression and ADD. In a 15 minute session and a quickly-completed questionnaire, Laurens immediately diagnosed bipolar disorder during this first and only 15 minute session, had me stop taking current meds, and prescribed a bipolar med (oxcarbazepine) to build over a week's time to a regular dosage. I had one phone number for contacting her.
Within a few days I was beginning to feel agitated, foggy, and a little scared. I called and left a message on Thursday evening. I was going out of town for the weekend but had my cell phone. During the weekend my friends and brother noted my increasing anxiety and confusion - very unlike me. I received no call back. I left a second and panicky message. Returned home Monday. Tuesday I received a call from Laurens' scheduler. I explained that I needed to talk with Laurens. The following morning I found a note on my living room floor - I had no memory of writing it - telling anyone who found me unconscious or worse what I had been taking and Laurens name. That night I was taken to the nearest ER and treated for panic attack, high blood pressure (I have consistently very low blood pressure.) The ER nurse called for the ER doc whoin turn called in the Psychiatric doc on duty on the Psych floor. He was extremely concerned by my condition and immediately started weaning me off the ozcarbazepine, and referred me to a Psychiatrist for follow up.
A public school teacher, I started the new school year feeling frightened and confused. After the first two days, I had to call in sick. I met with the referred Psychiatrist who carefully weaned me off the oxcarbazepine and gently supported me during the recover period.
I was reassessed with - yes - depression and ADD, and prescribed meds that proved successful.
My ER bill was huge, even with insurance., and I lost three critical days of work as well as 3 days of sick leave due to Laurens flippant "diagnosis."
When Laurens finally did return my call, on the evening of my second sick day, and I expressed my fears and concerns, she suggested that perhaps I just needed to see someone else.
Boy, did I.
Having read another report by a Laurens' patient, also dealing with a bipolar misdiagnosis, I am especially fearful for anyone consulting with Laurens, as are my friends, family, and medical support.
I sent Laurens a letter describing my experience and concerns. She responded a month later with a brief note stating that my experience was unfortunate, as she always has her patients' interests at heart, and she wished me luck in the future.
I don't believe that prescribing medical professionals should be referencing "luck"....

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I was referred to Laurens by a counselor who, it turned out, was not personally experienced with Laurens. The objective was to reassess current medications for depression and ADD. In a 15 minute session and a quickly-completed questionnaire, Laurens immediately diagnosed bipolar disorder during this first and only 15 minute session, had me stop taking current meds, and prescribed a bipolar med (oxcarbazepine) to build over a week's time to a regular dosage. I had one phone number for contacting her.
Within a few days I was beginning to feel agitated, foggy, and a little scared. I called and left a message on Thursday evening. I was going out of town for the weekend but had my cell phone. During the weekend my friends and brother noted my increasing anxiety and confusion - very unlike me. I received no call back. I left a second and panicky message. Returned home Monday. Tuesday I received a call from Laurens' scheduler. I explained that I needed to talk with Laurens. The following morning I found a note on my living room floor - I had no memory of writing it - telling anyone who found me unconscious or worse what I had been taking and Laurens name. That night I was taken to the nearest ER and treated for panic attack, high blood pressure (I have consistently very low blood pressure.) The ER nurse called for the ER doc whoin turn called in the Psychiatric doc on duty on the Psych floor. He was extremely concerned by my condition and immediately started weaning me off the ozcarbazepine, and referred me to a Psychiatrist for follow up.
A public school teacher, I started the new school year feeling frightened and confused. After the first two days, I had to call in sick. I met with the referred Psychiatrist who carefully weaned me off the oxcarbazepine and gently supported me during the recover period.
I was reassessed with - yes - depression and ADD, and prescribed meds that proved successful.
My ER bill was huge, even with insurance., and I lost three critical days of work as well as 3 days of sick leave due to Laurens flippant "diagnosis."
When Laurens finally did return my call, on the evening of my second sick day, and I expressed my fears and concerns, she suggested that perhaps I just needed to see someone else.
Boy, did I.
Having read another report by a Laurens' patient, also dealing with a bipolar misdiagnosis, I am especially fearful for anyone consulting with Laurens, as are my friends, family, and medical support.
I sent Laurens a letter describing my experience and concerns. She responded a month later with a brief note stating that my experience was unfortunate, as she always has her patients' interests at heart, and she wished me luck in the future.
I don't believe that prescribing medical professionals should be referencing "luck"....

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When I went to see Alice, i was given a questionairre to fill out, after which - she spent some time talking to me, in attempts to assess my situation. I initially felt comfortable in my interaction w/her and never felt rushed.

Alice's felt confident that I did have ADD but was insistent that I had bi-polar as well and was unwilling to prescribe any ADD specific medication (generally, stimulants) until my "perceived" bi polar was under control - due to the adverse affects (sometimes - disastrous) that stimulants can have on someone who has untreated bipolar.

I'm not shy about facing whatever condition i may have. I'm not partial if it's called bipolar, ADD, depression, whathaveyou - because ideally whatever my condition is, i want to get assistance for the same.

When Alice mentioned about Bipolar, i didn't agree because i had researched the same before and it never seemed to fit. All the same, i did further research into the condition. While many aspects of ADD and BiPolar blend into one another - there are many aspects that seem distinctly unique to each.

Once again, the research I did - did not correlate w/me having Bipolar. When I tried to convey the same to Alice - she was incredibly insistent that I was bipolar and merely convincing myself of what i wanted to see. In my mind i could not justify taking medication for a condition for which i did not meet the condition specific symptoms.

Alice explained that taking bipolar medication was necessary to prevent any type of bipolar episode (of which, i've never actually had). I asked her that, if i've never had a bipolar episode - then how was i supposed to know if the medication to keep me from having episodes was working. Her answer was that i would just need to keep taking the medication to ensure an episode never occurred.

I can't help but feel that was one of the most bizarre encounters I ever had. My take is that, as stated above - for someone with bipolar that is not medicated - taking stimulants can be very dangerous - and I think she couldn't or wouldn't see beyond that risk, feeling that she might be held accountable.

I'll say that I had been to professionals thereafter and i was honest w/them about my feelings and about Alice's feelings of me having BiPolar and why? No other professional has ever (before or after) diagnosed me with Bipolar. I had also taken prescribed ADD stimulant medication and while i'm still searching for a good balance - i have not had any type of bipolar disorder that Alice was so quite thoroughly convinced would occur.

The bottom line is that I do not begrudge Alice for believing I had bipolar - that is her perrogative and sometimes it can be hard to discern one disorder from another I don't begrude her hesitancy to prescribe medication in thinking it would be harmful to me. What I do begrudge is the fact that she would not listen to me. She seemed most insistent on her prognosis and perception and not willing to take the time to get to know the specifics of why i personally feel i do not have bipolar - feeling that i was merely convincing myself of what i wanted to think (which makes no sense).

I fear any practitioner that is so sure of themselves that they are unwilling to listen to the patient, further - to dismiss the patients own input.

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When I went to see Alice, i was given a questionairre to fill out, after which - she spent some time talking to me, in attempts to assess my situation. I initially felt comfortable in my interaction w/her and never felt rushed.

Alice's felt confident that I did have ADD but was insistent that I had bi-polar as well and was unwilling to prescribe any ADD specific medication (generally, stimulants) until my "perceived" bi polar was under control - due to the adverse affects (sometimes - disastrous) that stimulants can have on someone who has untreated bipolar.

I'm not shy about facing whatever condition i may have. I'm not partial if it's called bipolar, ADD, depression, whathaveyou - because ideally whatever my condition is, i want to get assistance for the same.

When Alice mentioned about Bipolar, i didn't agree because i had researched the same before and it never seemed to fit. All the same, i did further research into the condition. While many aspects of ADD and BiPolar blend into one another - there are many aspects that seem distinctly unique to each.

Once again, the research I did - did not correlate w/me having Bipolar. When I tried to convey the same to Alice - she was incredibly insistent that I was bipolar and merely convincing myself of what i wanted to see. In my mind i could not justify taking medication for a condition for which i did not meet the condition specific symptoms.

Alice explained that taking bipolar medication was necessary to prevent any type of bipolar episode (of which, i've never actually had). I asked her that, if i've never had a bipolar episode - then how was i supposed to know if the medication to keep me from having episodes was working. Her answer was that i would just need to keep taking the medication to ensure an episode never occurred.

I can't help but feel that was one of the most bizarre encounters I ever had. My take is that, as stated above - for someone with bipolar that is not medicated - taking stimulants can be very dangerous - and I think she couldn't or wouldn't see beyond that risk, feeling that she might be held accountable.

I'll say that I had been to professionals thereafter and i was honest w/them about my feelings and about Alice's feelings of me having BiPolar and why? No other professional has ever (before or after) diagnosed me with Bipolar. I had also taken prescribed ADD stimulant medication and while i'm still searching for a good balance - i have not had any type of bipolar disorder that Alice was so quite thoroughly convinced would occur.

The bottom line is that I do not begrudge Alice for believing I had bipolar - that is her perrogative and sometimes it can be hard to discern one disorder from another I don't begrude her hesitancy to prescribe medication in thinking it would be harmful to me. What I do begrudge is the fact that she would not listen to me. She seemed most insistent on her prognosis and perception and not willing to take the time to get to know the specifics of why i personally feel i do not have bipolar - feeling that i was merely convincing myself of what i wanted to think (which makes no sense).

I fear any practitioner that is so sure of themselves that they are unwilling to listen to the patient, further - to dismiss the patients own input.

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