We bought a new Nissan from Garff in '07. The sale went well. You always feel like you're getting screwed no matter what, but the initial purchase was relatively painless. It's the stunt they attempted to pull about a year and a half later that burst my Garff bubble. We received a mailer saying they were desperate for used models of the car we purchased. Should have smelled a rat but as wife and I were in the neighborhood the following Saturday, we thought we'd check it out. The bottom line to the scam is that they wanted to sell us a new model of the same car, a vehicle which has not changed much since its introduction in the early 90's, for full sticker price which would have boosted the monthly payment about $200. Sales manager very pushy, they actually had us in the finance office with the contracts printed before I put a stop to the whole process. And the sales manager had the nerve to act outraged. Even the finance guy was looking at us like are you really this stupid that you're going to fall for this. In retrospect the whole affair was rather entertaining. Lesson learned: buy from Garff but be damn careful, and if the deal seems to stink then move on. We had very good luck with Nate Wade over in SLC.